<p>Yalies were chanting "safety school" >_< haha?</p>
<p>That sounds kind of mean.</p>
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<p>That DOES sound kind of mean.</p>
<p>That IS kind of mean. and a little true.</p>
<p>Harshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Jeesh I’m glad I’m not going to Yale:)</p>
<p>It’s all relative. My friends at Northwestern would chant about how their sports opponents would one day be asking them for jobs.</p>
<p>By and large, I found there to be little actual snobbery like this. We chanted similar stuff because we thought it was witty – not that we thought we were actually better than them. I think most of us felt we were very fortunate and it wouldn’t have been much for us to be sitting on those sidelines too.</p>
<p>One thing about Yalies: their sense of humor – both wry and profane – is quite the sight. At another recent infamous football game, look what happened</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4kai4FL0MQ[/url]”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4kai4FL0MQ</a></p>
<p>It happened after they “beat” us in football, too (‘beat’ in quotes because Yale a), had Interception Witt at the helm - Cornell had half the offense we did, and b), the refs missed an obvious pass interference call in the final two point conversion.) It’s more a way of trash-talking them than legitimately being elitist.</p>
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<p>Is Northwestern even prestigious enough as a school that they can boast like this? When I was applying I didn’t even strongly consider Northwestern, except for the fact that I would have probably been admitted if I applied.</p>
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<p>In a word - yes.</p>
<p>^^^Really when did that happen?</p>
<p>Northwestern isn’t an Ivy or ivy-caliber school like Duke or MIT. I don’t understand how people who go to Northwestern could say that someone else would be working for them. Not only is that arrogant, it is completely unsubstantiated.</p>
<p>As a side note though, we should vote to kick Cornell out of the Ivy League and replace it with MIT. That way people can stop hanging on the coattails of HYP by constantly refering to the fact that it is an Ivy–and it is in name only.</p>
<p>Lol @ the arrogance in this thread. I thought Yale was better than that, but whatever. Who cares about silly labels? Does it really matter that Cornell is in the Ivy League and MIT isn’t? Will that make MIT a better school for you?</p>
<p>Dbate: you’re way off base. You should keep your unsubstantiated opinion to yourself. Being from the midwest, NWU is definitely one of the jewels. If you were to apply to a job in Chgo or Indy or Detroit: a NWU resume would probably be looked upon more favorably than a Yale one.</p>
<p>Don’t bash other schools. It reflects poorly on Yale and yourself.</p>
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<p>Dbate, clearly you are suffering from regional bias.</p>
<p>NU and U Chicago are the two schools with the highest academic reputation in the Midwest. If you took the time to examine some statistics, you would see their 25/75 SAT admission brackets are significantly higher than Rice’s or Cornell’s, slightly higher than Duke’s, equal to Stanford’s or Penn’s, and slightly lower than Dartmouth’s. You would also see they have a higher endowment than all these schools save for Stanford. It is true NU’s mission, like Penn’s or Cornell’s, is bent a little more towards “applied” over “pure” research than most of the other Ivies, Duke, and Chicago, but it ought to be considered a peer school. I dare say if they had a sports program with success to rival that of Duke’s basketball team their reputation would be even stronger.</p>
<p>NU certainly has the strongest academic reputation in its athletic conference, the Big 10 (and I say this as an alum of another Big 10 school), whose teams they usually are playing. So for them, such a chant has the same significance as it does for Yalies: almost groundless but with a small hint of truth and, thus, humorous for its brashness and effective in anesthetizing against the pain of a probable loss.</p>
<p>Dbate is off base about Northwestern, and really off base about Cornell. We all know about ranking systems and their flaws, but both major international rankings rate Cornell quite highly. The Shanghai ranking (heavily weighted to hard science, with no humanities considerations) put Cornell 12th in the world, just behind Yale at #11. The more Anglo-Saxon QS rankings have it at 15th, in a virtual tie with Duke and Stanford (which, in the Chinese rankings are 31st and 2nd respectively). So much attitude about a world-class university is pretty laughable coming from a Yale freshman.</p>
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<p>Of course schools are going to be popular on a regional basis. In Texas, A&M is a brand name that everyone know but that doesn’t make it prestigious. Like it or not Northwestern is not a house-hold name when it comes to universities, and yes I sincerely question any claim that non-Northwestern college graduates will somehow be working for Northwestern alums. When I was applying to colleges I considered the University of Texas-Austin to be preferable to Dartmouth, especially considering the fact that I didn’t know Dartmouth was an Ivy. So sure, from a midwestern viewpoint Northwestern is probably amazing, but-- from the vantage point of the rest of America–I don’t see Northwestern as being prestigious enough to make such a bold claim. And even if they were, it would be rude and immature to insult the future success of non-Northwestern grads. I would be p-i-s-s-e-d if I ever went to a game against Northwestern and they chanted that to us. </p>
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<p>I had never heard about U Chicago before I started to apply to colleges so I wouldn’t consider their lay prestige to be on par with their academic reputation. </p>
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<p>Regardless of whether not we would like to admit it Cornell is considered one of the worst world-class universities. Yes, it is an oxymoron. Yes, it denies Cornell’s top notch Law, Engineering, and Medical programs, but it is true nonetheless. People here commonly comment on the fact that Cornell is an easier university to get into and, like it or not, when a person gets into Yale and Cornell they typically come to Yale.</p>
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<p>That’s right, Dbate; you nailed it. No one graduating from Northwestern has ever actually risen to a point in any company where they have a direct report. Well, maybe one person in the class of 1971, but that was an aberration. @@</p>
<p>Dbate, employers are going to get a whiff of your arrogance and pomposity, and your Yale degree will be worth nothing. I know you think it makes you look cool to put other fine schools down but it just makes you look small. People who are truly secure are fine with sharing the wealth and saying that there are a lot of great schools out there. Only the losers need to keep asserting their own school’s superiority. </p>
<p>BTW, the direct quote is “That’s all right, that’s OK, you’re going to work for us someday!” chanted at football games, sometimes accompanied by keys jangling (as in you’ll park our cars for us). Directed typically against our biggest rivals of Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin, in anticipation of a crushing loss. It was <em>good-hearted</em> in nature. No one seriously thought that people were “losers” for attending those schools, or that they really were going just to be parking cars. It’s a sophisticated, nuanced outlook on life, Dbate. Try it sometime.</p>
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<p>It’s not a household name in your circle - but your circle is quite limited. And you don’t even know how limited it is. Tant pis pour vous.</p>
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<p>I know there are alot of great schools out there. Schools like UCLA, Berkeley, Duke, Georgetown, and Johns Hopkins are easily on par with any Ivy in the country. But I don’t see any of those kids going to sporting events claiming someone else is going to be working for them.</p>
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<p>Nuanced and sophisticated to whom? Sure from the perspective of someone jangling the keys it is in good humor and fun, but from the other side I doubt it. There is nothing nuanced about saying someone else is going to work for you, and it is even worse considering Northwestern is not a school that should be making this claim sincerely. Berkeley could make this claim. Northwestern should not.</p>
<p>Thanks, PG. I couldn’t remember exactly what the cheer was.</p>
<p>Dbate, I just checked Northwestern’s CDS. 80% of the members of NU’s current freshman class are from outside Illinois. Trust me, they’re not all from Indiana. NU has long had a national presence.</p>
<p>Please quit while you’re behind. You’re misinformed, and your arrogance is a poor – and, I think, inaccurate – reflection on the Yale student body.</p>