Attend ASU or CSU for SE?

<p>Hey everyone,</p>

<p>I was accepted to ASU (CS), CSULA(CS), SJSU(CE), CSUN(pre-CS), and CSU Sac (CE) so far. I am still waiting for UC's, but I doubt I was accepted by one. </p>

<p>Which of these universities should I attend? I would like to pursue a career in software development and graduate as soon as possible. I've been hearing that registering for courses at any of the CSU's are ridiculously difficult and graduating within 2 years is unlikely. However, I already have all of the classes I need at ASU (registration is really early for ASU) for Fall 2013.</p>

<p>Will I graduate within 2 years at any of these universities? Or which one would be the better choice to graduate sooner? Also, which one of these schools improve my chances of obtaining an internship/job due to their help? Will ASU being recognized as a party school hinder my future job search?</p>

<p>Ive called each of the recruitment offices at all of these universities and they weren't helpful at all... They provided very biased, vague responses. </p>

<p>Thank you in advance!</p>

<p>ASU is a great school. It is a well known engineering school and I’m sure a CS degree from there will get you anywhere you want to go. San Jose State is a good school as well. There are grads from there in Silicon Valley. Is getting classes at upper level hard? I have only heard that at Cal Poly for the CSU system. </p>

<p>Dont worry about graduating in 2 years, worry about graduating with the best gpa. Don’t overload on classes too much you will be fine. As to what to pick, compare the financial aid packages. I know ASU gives what 1.5x tuition for Cali residents? </p>

<p>Where do you live and what do you want to do career wise? I would rather attend ASU than all your choices except SJSU, but that is engineering. I would think CE at SJSU is harder than CS at ASU. You have to take circuits and more physics. </p>

<p>Good job on your acceptance. I got accepted for computational math at ASU and wish I could have got in for engineering. But if you have all the pre-reqs done graduating in 2 years will be easy at ASU if you don’t fail or withdraw from the courses. </p>

<p>If the degree wont cost too much more than a CSU degree I say ASU.</p>

<p>Are you frosh or junior transfer (since you mentioned graduating in two years)?</p>

<p>Net price after financial aid grants (not loans) and scholarships at each? How much debt by graduation would you have at each? Unfortunately, ASU’s WUE discount does not apply to any major on the main Tempe campus.</p>

<p>SJSU is conveniently in Silicon Valley (i.e. easily recruited by companies), but if you got into the computer engineering major rather than the computer science major, you should be aware that the computer engineering major is more hardware oriented.</p>

<p>Lookin4ward: Thanks! Currently I live in CA and want to get into software development. I’m not really into circuitry… When I had circuits for physics, I got really bored…</p>

<p>ucbalumnus: I will be a junior transfer and as for the financial aid question, the universities still haven’t told me how much I would get. However, the prices of each university per year WITHOUT financial aid/scholarships would be: ASU-$37,211(OOS), SJSU-$25,049, CSULA-$24,000, CSUN-$25,220, and CSU Sac-$29,528.</p>

<p>My parents have decided to help cover half of my total expense. How difficult would switching from CE to CS at SJSU?</p>

<p>Congrats on your acceptances and don’t dwell on rejections, it’s been another tough year for admissions. All else being equal, SJSU stands out to me among the CSU’s simply because it’s ranked in USNWR as the best of the west. The other CSUs are ranked far lower, plus they are major commuter schools. San Jose is in the Silicone Valley and employers from the area will most likely recruit from there.</p>

<p>For ASU, it depends on the campus. The satellites are commuter and working adult types is what I’ve heard. Make sure your major and gpa qualifies foe the tuition exchange program. Hope my two cents helps! Good luck</p>

<p>You probably have to contact the CS department at SJSU to find out the chance of changing major. Some information is here:</p>

<p>[Advising</a> Hub | Changing Your Major | San Jose State University](<a href=“http://www.sjsu.edu/advising/for_students/change_of_major/]Advising”>http://www.sjsu.edu/advising/for_students/change_of_major/)
<a href=“http://www.cs.sjsu.edu/Programs/cs_advis/cs_advise.html[/url]”>http://www.cs.sjsu.edu/Programs/cs_advis/cs_advise.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>However, the computer engineering major does include the following software courses (which are pretty well chosen for applicability to industry software jobs):</p>

<p>CMPE 102 embedded software
CMPE 126 algorithms and data structures
CMPE 130 advanced algorithms
CMPE 131 software engineering
CMPE 142 operating systems
CMPE 148 networks
CMPE 152 compilers</p>

<p>as well as hardware courses:</p>

<p>CMPE 110 digital electronics
CMPE 124 digital design 1
CMPE 125 digital design 2
CMPE 127 microprocessor design
CMPE 140 computer architecture</p>

<p><a href=“http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/catalog/departments/CMPE-section-1.html[/url]”>http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/catalog/departments/CMPE-section-1.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/catalog/departments/CMPE-courses.html[/url]”>http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/catalog/departments/CMPE-courses.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Thanks SalveMater, Ill keep that in mind.</p>

<p>ucbalumnus: I’ve emailed an advisor from SJSU about the info on switching majors. Hopefully they respond promptly, but I hardware courses do not interest me one bit. If their response to switching is not favorable for me, I believe Ill just attend ASU. So, I guess I’ll just have to wait and see.</p>

<p>I was right on the money when I said ASU tuition would be about 1.5x CSU. </p>

<p>Sounds like a good plan. Who knows you might even like the Phoenix area if you decide on ASU. There are some really good tech jobs there and cost of living is super cheap compared to California. </p>

<p>Good luck</p>

<p>ASU cost of attendance is 1.5 times CSU. That is different from ASU tuition being 1.5 times CSU.</p>

<p>But financial aid may change things, as state universities are usually better for in-state students than out-of-state students.</p>

<p>True. That’s what I meant to say. Carry on lol</p>

<p>Well… the issue is I don’t plan on staying in AZ after graduation. I hope to either find a job in LA, Seattle, or NY afterwards.</p>

<p>I have been to San Jose and Phoenix, AZ and I don’t like both areas, but I understand many great tech jobs are there and both universities will improve my chances greatly of landing a job. </p>

<p>Should I take *“Who knows you might even like the Phoenix area if you decide on ASU. There are some really good tech jobs there and cost of living is super cheap compared to California” * as a sign that I will end up in AZ after graduation if I attend ASU? and will the same be said about San Jose city if I attend SJSU?</p>

<p>Many smaller companies recruit and hire mainly locally, so the odds do favor working in your university’s region as your first job at graduation.</p>

<p>No. I was just stating the fact. A lot of people have not ventured outside of California and don’t know of the opportunities in different areas of the country. </p>

<p>For instance Qualcomm, Intel, and Northrup Grumman and other large companies have offices in the Phoenix area. </p>

<p>But you’ve already been there so you know whats up.</p>

<p>SJSU will save me about $10k every year vs ASU, but I can get all my classes at ASU without any worries. Does anyone know how difficult it is to register for classes at SJSU? That is my biggest concern in deciding which school to attend. I’m already a bit older and can’t waste anymore time in school just because I couldn’t register for classes… sigh</p>

<p>SJSU’s schedule is here; you can look to see how full the classes are:
[Info.sjsu.edu[/url</a>]</p>

<p>ASU’s CS schedule is here; you can see how much open space is in each class:
<a href=“Class Search”>Class Search](<a href=“http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/soc-spring-courses/all-departments.html]Info.sjsu.edu[/url”>http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/soc-spring-courses/all-departments.html)</a></p>

<p>Thanks for those links ucbalumnus. Ill check those out tomorrow after work, going to bed a bit early tonight.</p>

<p>Not looking good at SJSU… the classes listed for Comp. Sci. (with the assumption that I can switch my major eventually) are over the limit. Seems like the students are having a hard time getting classes. Im beginning to think going to ASU would be the best choice to graduate within 2 years.</p>

<p>On the title, you listed “SE” like you plan to major in software engineering as a undergrad.</p>

<p>I would suggest majoring in CS and let the employers teach you software engineering. Personally, I am not a big fan of the “software engineering” major (undergrad or grad).</p>

<p>Just take that one overall “software engineering” course and use the rest of the credits to take other CS courses.</p>

<p>…just my $0.05</p>

<p>My apologies, you’re right. The title’s meaning was something totally different in my head at the time of its creation. What I actually meant was: Out of the schools that accepted me for the majors mentioned, which would be a better choice to attend to enter the software development field… If that makes any more sense? Hopefully it does, but nonetheless, I made a mistake.</p>

<p>I agree with you on CS being a better choice for a major over SE. The points you mentioned on many of your posts/threads are very valid and made a lot of sense. I will be pursuing a CS degree, especially after ucbalumnus pointing out that CE is more hardware oriented, which I didn’t know before. So, I’ll scratch CE out of my plans since I’m not a big fan of circuitry.</p>

<p>I just received the acceptance letter from Chico State for Computer Science. Does anyone know about Chico’s CS program and how it compares to ASU’s?</p>