<p>Dizzydani88- I'd just like to say that I am so impressed by the research and deep thought you put into which program would fit you best. My D is so "all over the place" between projects, etc., that I basically forward important info. to her and she reads it over and forms her opinions based on that. You remind me of Shauna in that you are very independent, intelligent and driven. I'm sure you will eventually end up exactly where you're meant to be...."Dizzy" Dani seems anything but Dizzy to me....
Artsymom and Newmtmom - It's just so great to get to see the people whom we've met on CC. We all have so much in common, yet we are so different! I would love to get together (maybe in NYC) after all these auditions are over and just relax with all our CC friends (kids included?)!</p>
<p>Lynn, a followup on your CMU question and arrangements/logistics....we are also going when you are (I can't recall if you are combining it with a PSU audition the day before like we are). I also am in the midst of the arranging (am starting to feel like a travel agent!). The only flight out after that afternoon CMU audition for us is at 5:55 and I was leery about if we could make it or not or if we needed to stay yet another night. The expense of this PA trip for the two colleges is already quite hefty without that. In fact, right now I am dealing with what seems to be such a high fee for the car rental between PSU and CMU, yuck. Anyway, in the audition literature for CMU, it says to allow 3-4 hours for the audition, but those who have gone before wrote above that it usually ends in three hours or at 4 PM. I know I'd have to leave CMU by 4 to drive to the airport, return the car, and make the plane. I called CMU yesterday and they said the audition takes 3 hours which means it should be done by 4. But I was also told that if your kid had a flight to make, they should mention it and will be accommodated in the order of auditions and so that we should be fine. I went ahead with this reservation (hope I don't regret it or hope it does not snow!). Did you make the late afternoon flight reservation afterall? As it is, there are no direct flights back to where we live and options are way fewer for us as we do not live in a major city, lol. Anyway, it will be nice meeting up again with you.
Susan</p>
<p>Susan - Looking forward to seeing you again, as well. I did make my arrangements for the early evening flight because we are flying on to Decatur, IL to check out Millikin the next day. I, too, hope all will work out ok. See you then!</p>
<p>I want to thank the moms of PSU MT students who suggested a long time ago on here that on the Feb. audition date, you can see a musical production (wish this was so everywhere else but never landed that way on the calendar for us). I did as you suggested and called about tickets and indeed Cary Libkin puts aside a block of tix for those who are coming for auditions if they request to see the production and we were able to get two tickets for Sweet Charity for the night before my D's audition. I am posting this in case anyone else is going in late Feb. for PSU auditions (not sure if you are, Lynn). This forum is a slew of information thanks to parents who are so willing to openly share this stuff!
Susan</p>
<p>Lynn, you get around! Wow, I think you have traveled far and wide lately, more than me.</p>
<p>Is anyone auditioning in Atlanta next weekend (February 18-21)?? It would be fun to put screen names to faces...</p>
<p>CCM audition this weekend</p>
<p>Anyone auditioning at CCM this Saturday? We'll be there and hope to meet some cc parents and kids. My H and D will be with me. Thanks again for all the support on this site after the rejection letter from UM- we're now looking forward to CCM and Elon next month. Waiting to hear from NYU (Steinhardt) and Northwestern and U of Miami. D got accepted to Cal State Fullerton, non-audition program for freshmen and then audition at end of either freshman or sophomore year- can't keep everything straight at this point!</p>
<p>Doctorjohn: I was just wondering...do you see an increase in the numbers of kids you are seeing this year? If so, I'm sure it's related at least in part to your great PR for the school. I know that when my D was in Florida we met a lovely young woman who was auditioning Sunday (along with my D) in NY simply because she was introduced to your program (by you) at her high school during a college recruitment type thing. My D also agreed that your audition was a very relaxed one. (It was pretty busy by you when she auditioned, so I didn't introduce myself...I didn't want to disturb you) She felt that most colleges on Sunday at the Unifieds were very relaxed and open.</p>
<p>I will be at the LA Unifieds this weekend . . . I have CMU on Sunday and Emerson on Monday. Looking forward to it, ironically. I figure each audition I have is one less I have to do . . . haha that was so not intelligent! Will anyone else be there this weekend? Good luck to anyone with upcoming auditions!</p>
<p>Just wondering if anyone out there is going to be at any of my D's remaining auditions -- this Sat., 2/12, Point Park; Fri. 2/18, Hartt; Sat. 2/26, Otterbein; Sat. 3/5, Webster. Oy vey...talk about getting around. I keep thinking about visiting my brother in VT during my D's spring break, but then I think...more travel?? On the other hand, a lawyer friend was just telling me that in January he had trips from DC to Brussels, LA and Phoenix, each for a day or two. Of course, his firm paid for those!</p>
<p>Lynnm, you know I'm with you on the idea of a post-craziness get-together...to celebrate and congratulate our kids and ourselves!</p>
<p>Dani -
excuse my lateness, I have been out of town. After reading 2 pages of posts, most of what I would say to you has been said. I was going to suggest seeking out individuals who have children at these schools to get a clearer picture, since my daughter researched and considered these schools but did not attend. Our opinion is that if you really want an Ivy - Brown is the "Arts Ivy". From everything we can gather it is a great place to do both. I'm glad that Susan can set you up with current students! My "d" also loved Sarah Lawrence. I called it a "graduate/montessori" type school. It is a great place for writers, artists, intellectuals that want to design their own program. It is very small and very concentrated. You can only fit in a couple courses a semester, because they are so in depth and you are writing and developing part of the curriculum. My d decided in the end it might be a better graduate than undergraduate situation for her.
You do sound a lot like my d in that you want training and academics. NYU certainly has provided that. Many of her friends double major which she initially thought she would do. Eventually she found out she could take a lot more of the type of classes that she wanted by looking into other studios, taking full loads and not graduating early - like many do. Your mom gave you great advice when she said look at the mission statements and then try to dissect the curriculum. NYU is a big place that offers a lot, including new courses and studios each year. If you are aggressive and take the time to find it - it is there.<br>
You are a very focused young lady (as stated by lynnm) and are so far ahead of the game, that I don't think you can go wrong whatever your choice is in the end.<br>
Glad to hear you got tickets to Grand Hotel - hope you enjoy!
ps Gertrude is my favorite character.</p>
<p>Susan-
Yes my daughter did enjoy CAP. Yes she felt she wanted more emphasis in certain areas of performance and writing. The studio she was in was a special offering. Tisch brought in the Playwright Liz Swados to teach. They wrote some of their own monologues, scenes and music with political/ social injustice themes and then performed their work and some of Swados' in a staged reading. So through audition and interview students could take her studio. Tisch does tend to offer one or two opportunities like this each year on top of the original existing 8?? studios. Next year she is thinking of auditioning for Classical studio or ETW. Regardless of your studio, everyone is technically a Tisch drama major. I feel that Tisch very much caters to indiviuals who have mulitple interests - not just performance. It is what their mission statement/philosophy is all about.
Bet of luck to your daughters, they sould like very diverse, creative individuals!</p>
<p>Ericsmom, freelance, lynnm and studio7--
Thank you all for your advice and kind words. I would like to thank you all individually and respond more specifically to some of the things you said but alas- homework calls. Will be writing up some posts later this week.
Thanks again--
Dani</p>
<p>P.S. Freelance- I've been meaning to tell you that I saw your D in both Les Mis and Nine at sdm (I didn't realize you were her mom until soozievt mentioned it to me in a private message) and she is so very talented. I wish her and all the other CC kids the best of luck!!</p>
<p>lynnm:</p>
<p>Sorry I didn't get to meet you on Sunday. But I'm glad your daughter had a good experience with us. We try to create a relaxed environment; we think the kids do better work. But I also liked the site at the American Management Association in NY. I'm a great believer in good architecture. In previous years, when we were in rehearsal studios down in the Village, there was absolutely no place for students and parents to wait, except for a few folding chairs in the hallway. Close spaces make for pressure-cooker situations. AMA, with its open hallways, free drink machines (!), and lounges, created a much more relaxed atmosphere. </p>
<p>Chicago is a bit tighter, but partly that's because there are over 40 schools here. Some months ago, someone asked who would be here, and I tried to find out, but couldn't get the information out of the Palmer House. However, I'm staring at a spreadsheet right now. Here, for the record, is the list. It's likely to be very similar next year, for those of you juniors who are thinking about doing this:</p>
<p>American Academy of Dramatic Arts
American Conservatory Theatre (ACT)
American Repertory Theatre Institute (Harvard)
Boston Conservatory
Boston U
Brandeis
Cal Arts
Carnegie Mellon
Chautauqua Schools
Cincinnati (CCM)
College of Santa Fe
Cornish
DePaul
Emerson
Evansville
Hartford (Hartt School)
Illinois
Ithaca
Liverpool Institute of Performing Arts
Miami
Michigan
Minnesota
National Theatre Conservatory
North Carolina School of the Arts
Northern Illinois
NYU (Tisch)
Oklahoma
Old Globe Theatre in San Diego
Otterbein
Penn State
Roosevelt (not at the hotel, but their school is across the street)
Royal Scottish Academy for Music and Drama
Rutgers
SMU (Meadows School)
SUNY Purchase
Tennessee
UC Irvine
UCLA
UC San Diego
University of the Arts (Philadelphia)
USC
Utah
Washington
Webster
Yale</p>
<p>As you can see, there are many more schools than the 19 which are part of the "Unified Auditions." That group, started originally by faculty at Webster, SMU, and Evansville, consists of schools which have agreed to hold auditions in NY, Chicago, Las Vegas, LA and San Francisco. The other schools have found it convenient to piggy-back on our schedule, and frankly, we're happy about it. The more schools which participate, the better it is for prospective students and their families (and their families' finances.)</p>
<p>Some of these (ACT, ART, Old Globe, Yale) are graduate auditions only. Sorry I can't be more specific about that at the moment. One additional note: Juilliard was here last week. I don't know why they changed their audition dates this year. Normally, they're with us.</p>
<p>Finally, lynnm, yes, I'm seeing more students than I have in previous years. I've been asking how students found out about us, and several have mentioned the internet, and specifically, cc.com. So I'm grateful to this board and the posters. I thought we'd see 25 today, but we actually worked until 8:00 pm and saw 31. Lots of good kids.</p>
<p>An observation and a bit of advice for those who still have auditions to go: walk in with an up-beat attitude, do as well as you can, and walk out with that same up-beat attitude, no matter what happens, and we will want to have you as our students. Walk in or walk out defeated, and we won't. A life lesson, guys. Smile, and breathe!</p>
<p>I won't be able to post tomorrow, but I'll try to put something up this weekend from California. </p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>CMU ON SUNDAY IN LA:</p>
<p>Does anyone know how late CMU will be conducting auditions on Sunday?</p>
<p>Unifieds in NY - Dr. John, you're right, the AMA building was just beautiful. The atmosphere really makes a big difference. I know that my D felt like she picked up momentum as the day went on (she added some walk-ins), so I think having all the schools in one place is a real plus. Also, someone told her "the more you do, the less important each one will seem, the more relaxed you'll become." Excellent advice. She seemed to do best at the schools she didn't have a lot at stake in. I would definitely recommend the Unifieds to others. (Also had a bit of a reunion feel to it....my D met "old friends" or friends of friends at each audition!) Down side, of course, is if you schedule many auditions and become sick that weekend. Unfortunately, that happened on Friday to my D. She woke up with practically NO voice. We went to the doctor's after her Friday audition and she was much better by Sunday. I would imagine Chicago is even crazier with all those extra schools. We met a young man on Saturday at U of Arts who was from, I think, New Orleans (went to a performing arts h.s.) and his school insisted that each student audition at 15 schools. It was interesting to me, because a "normal old high school" doesn't understand that it just may take 15 auditions to be accepted into one mt program.</p>
<p>I'm new at this so this may be a stupid question but does a students have to have applied to the school he or she auditions for? Since your d did walk-ins I assume she had not officially applied to those schools.</p>
<p>I have a question regarding auditioning for a dance scholarship. How does this process work? If someone who is interested in the dance program applies at a college and auditions for a scholarship AND is then invited back to audition again, does this mean that they have been "accepted" into the school. Some of my friends are auditioning for scholarships but still have not received their acceptance letters. Does this mean they are in?</p>
<p>ilbamom:</p>
<p>Depends on the school. But most of us who accept walk-ins assume that the student just found out about us and consequently hasn't yet applied. We've handed out several applications in the last couple of days. We just insist that the students apply as soon as possible. We can't even send them a letter about their acceptance status into the program unless they do so. Just to reiterate that point: if students do a walk-in audition, and don't complete the application process to the college, they will not hear anything from us either way about how they did at the audition.</p>
<p>tribegirl09: </p>
<p>At most schools, the admissions process and the scholarship process are separate. If you've received a letter accepting you for admission to the college or university, AND if the dance department does NOT require auditions for admission to their programs, then yes, you're in. The audition for scholarships is separate, and designed to aid the dance department in recruiting the students they'd like to have in the program.</p>
<p>BUT if you haven't received a letter from the college admissions office indicating that you've been accepted into the college, then no, you cannot assume that you've been admitted just because you've been invited to audition for a scholarship.</p>
<p>Best advice is to contact the college admissions office for clarification about your status. OK?</p>
<p>DoctorJohn-</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing this up. My friends are under the assumption that they have been accepted because they have been asked back for a second audition. Their SATs and GPAs are on the low side for this school and they feel that the dance program is their "in." I hope they are not getting their hopes up, and then get disappointed. Do most schools have the same requirements for "dancers" as for the general population or are they recruited like "athletes" and therefore can have lower Stats?</p>