<p>COA estimates are not consistent across schools and YMMV. When the school doesn’t give a straightforward estimate, I use the numbers from collegedata.com:</p>
<p>Is it worth mentioning that, other than Miami OH (68%), none of the colleges on this Full Ride list (post #2) graduates even HALF their students in 4 years? The two Louisiana colleges graduate fewer than 10 percent (yes, you read that right) in 4. Shreveport graduates only 33% in SIX.</p>
<p>Is it worth mentioning that, other than Miami OH (68%), none of the colleges on this Full Ride list (post #2) graduates even HALF their students in 4 years? The two Louisiana colleges graduate fewer than 10 percent (yes, you read that right) in 4. Shreveport graduates only 33% in SIX.</p>
<p>those stats don’t often mean much in regards to students with large scholarships. The students who aren’t graduating in X years are likely different types of students: commuters, part-time students, lesser achieving students. I rarely hear about scholarship students not graduating in four years.</p>
<p>The stats do, however, say something about the other students the scholarship students are likely to be in classes with, unless there are separate honors courses. That may or may not be an issue for a given student. One of the things we looked at when looking at colleges that were likely to offer big merit to S1 was whether they had an honors program/college, and if so, did they have separate honors sections of the core courses my S would have to take (versus getting honors credit by attending a regular class but doing an extra project or something). For my S1, he wanted to be in classes with kids close to his intellectual level. That’s a personal decision, and not everyone will care about that.</p>
<p>I think encouraging everyone to take a critical look at the colleges on the list is a good thing. Many are commuter schools and/or lower tier schools that may not serve a student’s needs and/or desires.</p>
<p>That said, I think graduation rate is a bad metric to use for evaluation. The most common reason for failure to graduate is financial difficulties, and many of the other causes are equally unrelated to the quality of the teaching/learning at the college:</p>
<p>Im not kidding, I went to look up several of these and at least five of them were mostly black universities. What does them being public universities or in the south have to do with anything?</p>
<p>I went to look up several of these and at least five of them were mostly black universities</p>
<p>Well, the list is long, so if about 5 of them are HBCU then that means that there are many that aren’t. If an HBCU isn’t the right “fit” for you, then look at the schools that aren’t.</p>
<p>What are your stats? If your stats are strong, there are a number of big merit schools that have a wider variety of ethnic diversity that you desire.</p>
<p>I was just mentioning it so people could be aware because it ended up that I could only get one complete full ride at a non-black school with my stats and when I started I thought I could get 6 different ones. Now, I could still go to those schools, but I ended up deciding that I’d rather not just for fear of fitting in, and thought others should know too whether it would steer them away or even make them want to go.</p>
<p>It may be true that many of the “full ride” scholarships are to HBCUs. The list contains “full tuition” and “full ride” schools. We were just clarifying the situation since your post said, " many of these schools are mostly black universities". There are many, many schools on the list that aren’t, but they are “full tuition”, not full ride.</p>
<p>What is your situation? If you’re low income, then you might get a Pell grant and other aid on top of a full tuition scholarship.</p>
<p>Well I was just planning on applying to one of these just in case my parents don’t help me pay to go to a better college. They keep insisting I should go to our local community college because it’s just as good as any other university. I just thought it’d be nice to have a backup so I wouldn’t have to go to community college and could at least get away from home if they didn’t pay. Hopefully I can convince them though.</p>
<p>Regarding Utah State, it should be noted that they do offer non-resident scholarships based on GPA/SAT/ACT scores; the top award being a Presidential Scholarship. However, only the first year covers Non-Resident Tuition, after that they only cover the Resident Tuition and the student pays the difference. In the case of Utah State, that means you get your first year non-resident tuition of about $15K waived (plus fees), thereafter the student will be paying about $10K per year for a total four year tuition/fee cost of about $30K. </p>
<p>Conversely, if the student takes advantage of the Western Undergraduate Exchange Program (i.e. they reside in another Western state), with no regards to the students high school GPA/Test Scores, they can pay 1.5 times the Resident tuition; this currently would be about $7,200 per year based on Resident tuition of $4800. So, the four-year tuition cost would be $28,800 plus $4K total in fees ($32.8K total).</p>
<p>So, if Utah State is attempting to attract high achieving Non-Residents, the package simply doesn’t make much sense as Alabama, and others, pay all four years of the non-resident tuition.</p>
<p>My son is interested in Utah State and I noticed too that out of state was not for 4 years. Does anyone know if Utah has more relaxed standards for becoming a resident than some states? If you get a Utah DL and register to vote and maybe stay there for a summer job can you get instate tuition for later years if your parents are out of state?</p>
<p>The Utah residency requirements are set forth [url=<a href=“Page Not Found | Utah State University”>Utah Residency | Admissions | USU]here[/url</a>]. They are not particularly onerous - the student must remain in Utah for 12 months (with total absences during that period of no more than 30 days) and obtain a Utah DL, vehicle registration, and voter registration, and the students’ parents may no longer claim him or her as a dependent.</p>
<p>That’s doable but I think fairly unlikely that a college freshman will qualify for Utah residency for sophomore year – means no going home or anywhere outside of utah for the summer.</p>