<p>Just wanted to let the board know about the average GPA of CC and SEAS. This information isn't publicly disclosed and most likely for a good reason. So drumroll please....</p>
<p>The average GPA of the Engineering School for the Class of 2010 is 3.05.
The average GPA of the College for the Class of 2010 is approximately 3.59.</p>
<p>I'm not making these numbers up and pulling them out of a cap. These are pretty much the official numbers. If you want to fact check me, National</a> Trends in Grade Inflation, American Colleges and Universities publishes an estimated average GPA of Columbia. Use this data and the number of engineers vs. CC students to see how close this is to their estimate.</p>
<p>I can only speak for engineering, but this average GPA makes sense because freshman/sophomore classes are curved to a B/B+ in math and science classes, while it changes during your junior and senior years depending on what department you're in. IEOR continues the B/B+ curve while ChemE and Applied Math - to name a few - curve to a B-/B or C+/B-.</p>
<p>I can only guess how the college curves, but it seems that a lot of the core and language classes, though highly variable, tend to give out 50-80% A's, or B+/A- to A-/A curve. I'm sure that some majors are much easier than others though, but this is the overall trend in the college.</p>
<p>So IEOR tends to give B/B+ to students whose grades fall into the average range? I thought it’s not uncommon. In fact, that is pretty much the standard for most engineering classes (average B/B+)… </p>
<p>But I didn’t know non-engineering classes generally have 50% - 80% As…</p>
<p>Well, humanities classes are generally easier and much tougher to grade, so they suffer from massive grade inflation. I’m not at all surprised by these results.</p>
<p>Nowhere in your link does it publish accurate data for average gpa of Columbia (only some estimation based on % As), let alone average GPAs of CC and SEAS - so where are you getting your info from? I find it hard to believe that SEAS gpa’s are as low as 3.05 with the number of CC classes that seas students take, and I honestly think that CC is not as inflated as 3.6 - while some core classes like art hum / lit hum are that inflated many big departments like Poli Sci and Econ curve to B/B+. even history isn’t that inflated, and many early science and math courses are also not inflated much.</p>
<p>My guess is that seas is 3.15 and CC is ~3.4 for an average Columbia gpa of 3.35.</p>
<p>I know these numbers are a bit unbelievable, and no one has to believe me. I’m also sure that no one (me included) wants to hear that the average GPA is so high. Just to let you know, advisers from the CSA know the average graduating GPA of both schools. The number is out there, it’s just not published.</p>
<p>Yes, the link I posted is a model based on the percentage of A’s. All I’m asking you to do is combine the numbers I’ve posted with the number of students in each school to reach the true mean, and see how that compares to the estimate. 1100/1450 students are in CC with an average GPA of 3.59. 350/1450 students in SEAS with an average GPA of 3.05. The combined average gives an average Columbia GPA of 3.460, only 0.04 or 1.17% from the website’s estimate.</p>
<p>I can’t speak for CC, because I only tangentially hear about it from other students. However, I can speak for SEAS and I’m fairly certain that the average GPA is not 3.15. Perhaps, it’s like this in the IEOR department, which curves to a B/B+ but other departments consistently curve to a B-/B or C+/B-, which is a 2.85 and 2.5 average respectively. Freshman and sophomore year classes are easier, and are mostly curved to a B/B+ (Calculus, Linear Algebra, Physics I + II, ODE, Principle of Economics) with exceptions in Gateway, University Writing, Pre-professional, and non-technical classes. However, the mathematics and physical science departments try to cap the percentage of A-ranged grades at 35%. I believe that the average GPA of the engineering school is around a 3.05, but I will not debate the GPA of CC, because I don’t have the first-hand knowledge.</p>
<p>So you think you know seas gpa and then you take the average gpa for the website and get CC. a few questions / problems:</p>
<p>1) Is this the gpa in engineering vs. college classes or the gpa of engineering vs. college students - this makes a big difference, because seas kids take many cc courses.</p>
<p>2) Your website estimates the average GPA using % of As on transcript. However this data is only available for Columbia College students, meaning 95% of the classes will be Columbia college classes, meaning 3.42 is a rough estimate for the GPA of graduating students in Columbia College and of departments in Columbia College. This figure also fits in with my limited observation of average grades given out in the college. </p>
<p>I think you might be misunderstanding what you are hearing / reading.</p>
<p>Industrial Engineering
Operations Research: Engineering Management Systems
Earth and Environmental Engineering
Operations Research
Comp Sci (some people say)</p>
<p>All of these would be considerably more difficult that majoring in pretty much anything in the college apart from pure math,physics,chem. Comp Sci is difficult to impossible for the average person who does not like programming, but I hear the average grades are decent even if you have to spend many long tedious hours coding. Some people at Columbia are just naturally good programmers and are able to complete programming assignments with ease. No clue about theory classes.</p>
<p>I’ve heard from a friend whose actually at SEAS, that Operations Research is the easiest major available at SEAS? Is this true, or is he not well informed?</p>
<p>Also for a student wanting to do Pre-med, what would be the best major to do at SEAS?</p>
<p>confidentialcoll. The average GPA is of students graduating. As for the estimates from the website, I’m not sure what methodology is used, and I wouldn’t assume that it’s pulled from people’s transcripts. The administration keeps track of GPA and the numbers are out there. Please don’t assume the only estimates that can be formed are from Columbia College transcripts.</p>
<p>Once again, the numbers that I posted (3.59 for CC, and 3.05 for SEAS) are the ones from the CSA that are not publicly disclosed. The estimates online, regardless of how you want to pick at the methodology, helps corroborates the data that I’ve provided. It’s only for fact checking. I realize that there is variation in the GPA’s in Columbia College, but I’ll stick to these numbers as averages.</p>
<p>From what I’ve heard and seen, the IEOR department has the highest curves for their classes, a B/B+ or a 3.15 GPA. Other departments are curved 0.33 points lower or a third of a letter grade. In terms of pre-med, the most common majors I’ve seen are ChemE and Applied Math, because of their flexibility and lack of requirements. These are not the easiest major in SEAS, but you can finished pre-med requirements without taking 5-6 classes every semester.</p>