B-C Student/Great SAT's - Where did they go?

<p>The low GPA was the consequence of a devastating sophmore year due to chronic fatigue syndrome, not laziness or lack of diligence. Please be careful about making assumptions about who is "trying."</p>

<p>this thread makes me feel better. people forget that most of the people on this site do NOT represent typical applicants, they are definitely above average. aynway, i have a 3.3 gpa (which i don't consider to be so bad!), SAT 1400 (2100 on new scale), ACT 33 and i go to the best (possibly) private school in oklahoma. taking APs, and our gpas are unweighted. so we have a mix of kids taking easy classes with stellar grades, and overachievers who do nothing but study and make awesome grades even in the hardest courses. i prefer to do the best i can while still having a life. B's aren't that bad, folks. if i see one more person crying that they aren't going to get into harvard because they got a B, i'm going to have to go off on them. anyway, i'm planning on applying to schools like wake forest and u of richmond next year and i think i've got a good shot. i know people with similar stats who got into schoools of this sort. there's hope for us all, don't get discouraged!</p>

<p>emily i'm in the exact same boat and looking at similar schools (i visited wake and richmond recently, among others). personally i'd rather go to these schools than harvard anyway!</p>

<p>hilary- definitely agreed! even if i could get in, i don't want that ivy league experience. i also visited richmond and wake, in addition to american and wash & lee. loved richmond, wake also. i have a couple of friends with extremely high grades and test scores who were intent on going ivy league until they visited these schools and realzied that they aren't for everyone.</p>

<p>yeah i have one friend who is a possibly candidate for valedictorian (as in, all a's, no a-'s, all the toughest courses...ugh haha)... and she doesnt even want to go to harvard and those schools
i didnt get a tour at richmond because it was a sunday, but the school was soo pretty. whatd you like the most about it
wake was awesome too, except when iwas there it was freezing cold when it had been 75 degrees at emory (my favorite) the day before..soo that mightve affected my opinion.
i wanna look at wash&lee and amercian as well--whatd you think of them? i also looked at vanderbilt, duke (ha..my dad's wishful thinking), gtown (again, my dad), and william&mary, liked all of them. liked tufts a lot too but i want to go south.</p>

<p>Good friend of mine who is lazy in school has a B average and a 1550, got rejected or waitlisted almost everywhere including NYU and Umich and is gonna end up in Binghmaton. </p>

<p>SATs are so overrated, I remember in sophomore year hearing that SATs would get you into college so I stopped working and ended up with a subpar GPA but with good SAT scores.</p>

<p>I fit this stereotype too... I'm HOPING I can end up with a 3.5UW/3.9W by the end of my junior year. I'd be happy if I got a 570M/770CR/740W on my SATs. I'll have 4 APs by my junior year and be in the top 20%.</p>

<p>I really really really wanna go to McGill University.</p>

<p>It all depends on your overall application too doesnt it?</p>

<p>My friend is an accomplished 3 sport athlete
and has a 3.7-8 ish GPA (not sure) and he scored a 35 on the ACT's and got into NYU, Mich, Queens NC, etc. because they liked his ACT and athletic record</p>

<p>Wow so much success. 3.6 1350, UCI</p>

<p>lol.</p>

<p>hilary- i did a tour at richmond this spring. the campus is obviously gorgeous, but what i really liked about it was the overall feel. i just felt very comfortable there, i don't really know why. lets see... oh right, i liked american as well. but it's definitely more of an urban feel, very different from the other places i looked at. i do like the idea of being in washington dc though. i probably liked washington & lee the least. although i'm looking at smallish schools, i felt like it was too small- 1000 something undergrads. and it's a very small town as well. also it is VERY greek, at least according to my tour guide, so that isn't what everyone is looking for.</p>

<p>ooh yeah i wouldnt be able to deal with a school that small...way too much like high school. (i've also heard that wash&lee is very rich, white, preppy, and conservative, which i dont think i'd like).</p>

<p>g-town was really urban too, i kind of missed the grassy quads and trees.
ideal for me is a location thats within 10-20 minutes of a major city, without being right in the middle of the city or way out in the boonies, and a size of about 5000ish</p>

<p>The correlation between SAT scores & GPA in my school is rather odd... </p>

<p>USUALLY, the B/B+ (which, in my school, is top 11-20%) students tend to get high SAT scores (~1300 old SAT+). The A/A+ (top 1-10%) students tend to get low SAT scores (~1200 old SAT and below). C+/C students and A/A+ students often get identical or very similar SAT scores. </p>

<p>Anyway, I know a "slacker" (high SAT, low GPA (hovering around a B/B+)) who got into all of the universities she applied to (Boston U., Boston C., Fordham, CUNY Hunter, SUNY Binghamton, Georgetown and some REALLY GOOD LACs that I forgot about..)</p>

<p>i have/ will have an upward trend and am expecting a 1500+ do i have a chance at university of chicago, amherst, boston university, wellesley, oberlin, reed, (and of course i am applying to safeties...)
gpa is something like:
3.5 (pre high school transfer creds)
3.0..freshman
2.6.. soph
4.0. junior</p>

<p>oh yes i have a ton of ecs w/ leadership positions, not as really any awards though... and am hoping for a 4.0 next year and will have taken a total of 7 APs by the time i graduate....</p>

<p>I got into college this year as a Junior-Penn, Rice, Caltech. But because I thought I was gonna go, I slacked off and now my UW is appx a 3.3. My SAT scores are 1600/800/800/800/800. I'm also taking 11 AP exams this year(4 last week) in addition to three from freshman and sophomore year. Do my scores compensate for the GPA? I committed to Penn college, but next year, I'd like to apply to Cornell ED or UChic EA? If you have any specific comments could you PM or just post a reply on the board. Thanks.</p>

<p>how do you guys think "upward trends" for your gpa will affect your admission. for example i kind of slacked off frosh and soph years, but halfway through junior year my gpa jumped like .5 points,a nd is staying up there... so do you think colleges will forgive a little underclass slackage in favor of increasing effort/success when it really counts?</p>

<p>hey username, i had a 3.0 and i got into reed off the waitlist..i pretty much talked my way in. just have a lot of personality in your essays and show hella interest. i sent them loads of essays..if you want to read one, you can pm me.</p>

<p>I have a 2.78 UW / 3.45W (all Honors/APs). 5 D's and an E, along with a lot of A's. No upward trend (good grades freshman year, awful sophomore, mediocre junior).</p>

<p>My SAT I score is 2370 and my SAT II scores are 780 (Math), 800 (World History), and 800 (French).</p>

<p>I hope to get at least into University of Maryland - College Park (I'm in state). Maybe, if I'm lucky U Chicago or Georgetown (though those two would require either mafia connections or divine intervention).</p>

<p>My EC's are very impressive, and I can speak 4 languages (2 completely fluent, 2 close to fluent).</p>

<p>My bad grades are in Math, Chemistry, and Computer Programming (with the occasional C in French). In the subjects I like and plan to pursue further more seriously (English, History, Gov't, Economics), I've gotten A's.</p>

<p>What do you guys think my chances are?</p>

<p>I keep wondering why B/B+ students are considered slackers? I'm in the same boat as many of you 3.4/2100 but I consider myself a good student. I'm a good test taker, I just am not a great paper writer and it's reflected in some of my grades. I hate this assumption.</p>

<p>"I'm a good test taker, I just am not a great paper writer and it's reflected in some of my grades. I hate this assumption."</p>

<p>Haha, with me it's the opposite. I get all A's on papers and all C's on tests. This may be why I'm bad in math and good in English...funnily enough, standardized tests are the exception for me.</p>

<p>NSK88: Glad to see someone else has a lame school where they give E's and not F's! Where do you go to school?</p>