Back in The Game Part 2

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<p>I have mentioned my neice before. <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/439067-back-game.html?highlight=niece#post5130245%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/439067-back-game.html?highlight=niece#post5130245&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>She needs a generous school, should qualify for big FA. Really wants NYC or quick mass-transit in (but knows she needs to look at others).</p>

<p>From the initial post she now has a 29 ACT (with a 34 reading and a 25 math :eek:) taken cold and an SAT about the same. Top 11% at a well-respected suburban high school. Some decent leadership in Band and Theatre -President and VP.) . Big EC's . Lots of cool volunteering (Mexico and her own children's theater). Lots of hours in technical theatre stuff. </p>

<p>But here is what I didn't know. The kid is an absolute research hound about the Holocaust. She started in the 5th grade and she has now read and collected over 100 books on the topic, seen countless shows, visited museums. I had no idea and they never bothered to tell me. Jeebus.</p>

<p>All she ever said was she wanted to be a History and Technical Theatre double major. Who knew what area of History? Googling Holocaust studies brings some of the same NYC schools into play, but also Boston, LA, and D.C. . </p>

<p>She's just back from a week dragging her mom around the subways (and ferries) and loves Wagner. Any other thoughts or is she getting a decent start to a list? </p>

<p>Forgetting Columbia, </p>

<p>Pace, Wagner, Marymount Manhattan, Manhattanville, Manhattan (one of those is wrong I think????) , Drew, Fairleigh-Dickinson, Fairfield, maybe New School, maybe NYU (not Tisch), Emerson, Northeastern, Brandeis, Boston University, Occidental seem at least plausible with some luck and a great app. </p>

<p>I have to think the admissions committee won't see too many strawberry blond gentiles from small town Texans who have done 7 years of independent Holocaust research.</p>

<p>I think I can work with this. ;)</p>

<p>P.S. I can't believe after our many conversations they didn't think I'd be interested in this new tid-bit. LOL.</p>

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<p>What about Fordham or SUNY Purchase? I'm not sure if they have her intended areas of interest as majors..but they do have the location.</p>

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<p>I think that you know all of the NY area schools, and have the private ones on your list. I am sure that you know that Pace and FDU have more than one campus, BTW.</p>

<p>You might look into Hofstra in LI too, but they gap quite a bit on average as far as FA. I am sure that they'd like a Texan, but I don't know how that would play for FA. She should get merit aid there and qualify for their honor's program.</p>

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<p>If she is looking for $$ or needs FA, Purchase while an affordable option, may not give her the $$ she needs. I would also nix Pace of the list for the same reason (not a good track record for FA).</p>

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<p>A young woman I know with similar stats is at Marymount Manhattan. I hear that she LOVES it. She is a dancer & took some time off to be in a regional Rockettes holiday production. Seems like a great place for someone interested in both theater & a solid education. Also know several who attended NYU for theater-related programs. They were very happy.</p>

<p>I would think she has a good chance at the schools you listed. Not sure about the financial aspect, though ...</p>

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<p>Fordham and Hofstra should have been on the search list. I just forgot. Now, this is just a list to research not anywhere near a final list.</p>

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<p>How come I can't spell niece? Or proofread (an SAT?) ? Jiminy.</p>

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<p>Curm, Wagner would eat her up with a spoon. They love, love, love non-Staten Islanders and they show the love. She should also check out the Holocaust Museum. They have spectacular internships.</p>

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<p>To me Fordham would be the logical choice for a History/Theatre double. Fordham has a peforming arts campus at Lincoln center. There are hourly mini-buses (i.e., RamVans) between the Lincoln Center and the Uptown Campus. FA may be an issue, but I'm sure Fordham doesn't get many Apps from TX. George Washington is near the Kennedy Center in Washington DC. And obviously the Holocaust Museum is in DC as well.</p>

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<p>She would love that,zm. She said at lunch that she would love to intern at a museum or study center.</p>

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<p>Wesleyan. Not strictly urban but close. Good history with a multicultural intellectual perspective. Good theater, good music, good access to New York. A reach, but I'd say she'd be a person of interest. As far as I know only need based financial aid.</p>

<p>Link to the interdisciplinary program in Jewish and Israel Studies
Wesleyan</a> University: Jewish and Israel Studies</p>

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<p>Curm, may I also offer to you the Samberg Foundation? Very noteworthy on the topic of interest. I think Wagner might be a great choice. A quick ferry ride from Manhattan -- the Holocaust Museum is right downtown, as is Ellis Island. There are also museums and organizations on Staten Island. My daughter is nuts about the Tibetan art museum, but that's just her. You also can't beat Wagner for theater. Its program is amazing and I can speak to that personally because I do go see the shows. I also can't over-estimate just how much they love geographic diversity. Plus the campus is gorgeous and if life ever presents you with the opportunity to visit your niece there, I'd be honored to buy you a beer! May I also presume to suggest Seton Hall? They have a very nice museum studies program where the student does the major in liberal arts of choice and then the master's in museum studies in five years. Students from excellent undergrad schools do the museum studies program there. It's an awfully nice school, too.</p>

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<p>Cur, if NYU is on the radar screen, focus on Gallatin -- your niece is perfect for the school of individualized study. Of course NYU costs mega-bucks and financial aid is iffy.</p>

<p>Also... I don't know why you are so freaked over the ACT math score of 25. My d. had a score of 23, and it didn't stop Barnard, Chicago & Berkeley from admitting her. (I think a 25 would probably be about 80th percentile - not really all that bad and probably on the high end for many of the colleges your niece is visiting). It shouldn't be a barrier at all to a kid focused on studying history. She's not going to be taking any math or science in college except to meet general ed or distribution requirements. The 34 reading is great -- your niece definitely does well in the area that will count for her planned major.</p>

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<p>I gotta second Wes. Yes, only need-based aid, but definitely meets full need. Worth a try. Don't think they get many Texans; definitely would like the diversity she'd bring.</p>

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<p>If your niece wants to pursue her study of the Holocaust, she might want to consider Clark University in Worcester, MA (not hard to get to from either Providence or Boston). They offer an undergraduate concentration in Holocaust and Genocide Studies in what looks like a very strong program:
Clark</a> University | Holocaust and Genocide Studies | Programs | Undergraduate</p>

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<p>Great job, folks. Thank you a lot. </p>

<p>Sister is saying that she's bleary-eyed from reading too many stats today. I'm keeping her posted on the progress.</p>

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<p>I have to give a shout out for Muhlenberg College in Allentown, PA. Most theatre kids double major (and technical theatre is a major there), so this would be appealing to her. I think she'd qualify for merit scholarship, and I know they LOVE to diversify the geographic areas their students hail from. Unfortunately, this would mean my D won't be the only native Texan with strawberry blond hair there, although she only lived there for six months after birth.</p>

<p>Allentown is an easy hour and a half bus ride away from NYC; my D has taken advantage of that several times, courageous, considering she just finished her freshman year. Muhlenberg offers a professional summer musical theatre program and also hires outside of the school for all positions. Room is covered in the dorms, and there is a decent stipend. High schoolers with a strong background in technical theatre have good chances at these jobs. It then gives them the chance to experience the theatre department, and the campus before making a commitment to attend. However, if she's a rising senior, then she will have to make a decision before next summer when she'd be eligible. </p>

<p>Miksmom's son (a high-schooler) is doing the summer theatre tech internship this summer. Possibly you can PM her and ask her what his experience has been like.</p>

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<p>Muhlenberg is a great idea. we have a family friend in the Theater Program who's doing great, getting professional experience in the summer productions, and got a lot of merit money, too.</p>

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<p>You have Brandeis on your list. Good history department and lots of opportunities for theater. Take a look at the Spingold Theater (it looks like a cake). Easy access to Boston.</p>

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Also... I don't know why you are so freaked over the ACT math score of 25. My d. had a score of 23, and it didn't stop Barnard, Chicago & Berkeley from admitting her.

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<p>Oh Calmom, I wish this alone would be a sticky!!! This is just so ... refreshing.</p>