<p>I'm going to be a senior in hs next month, and the colleges I'm going to apply too are not exactly top notch. I figured that if I worked as hard as I could all senior year, and got into a decent school, I could possibly transfer to a better one. Any tips for transferring after one year? Thanks :)</p>
<p>Go to a community college and then transfer out. It is much more easier to transfer from a CC rather than a university because of the articulation agreements between the schools and the CCs. I also read on here that universities like CC transfer students more than university students as well. I don’t know the reason behind that but that’s what I’ve read. Not to mention that CC helps save a lot more money.</p>
<p>So hypothetically speaking, I could go to a CC, maintain a 4.0 and do community service (and other activities), and have a chance at any school that accepts transfers?</p>
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<p>Exactly how it is.</p>
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Bulls**t. Either start citing sources or stop making outlandish claims to impressionable HS students.</p>
<p>Here’s my advice to the OP: table this issue until you’ve gotten into a college next year and given it a fair shot. Illini’s advice is dripping with bias.</p>
<p>^ Thanks, you seem to know your stuff</p>
<p>I agree with slightlystoopid. If you can get into one of the decent 4 years, go there and then decide if you want to transfer or not. At the 4 year you’ll have better student life and extra curricular opportunities so you can get involved and make yourself more viable for transfer if you end up doing so.</p>
<p>First of all, you senior year of HS can really mean a LOT. Pick it up NOW - don’t wait till college to get your grades up.</p>
<p>Then, don’t go in with the intent of transferring. While this may be a viable option, you may very well strip yourself of some wonderful opportunities in the school you will attend. Should you spend some time and find that you do not fit, then go ahead - but do not go in expecting it to suck. Everybody is miserable the first 3 weeks of college.</p>
<p>As far as CC vs 4-year… I don’t have much I can say here. The financial stuff might make a big difference to you here. Don’t expect a CC to give you a leg up in transfer, or easier grades.</p>
<p>the reason that CC students might have an easier time getting into 4 year schools is because one of their main reasons to transfer is to obtain a bachelors, which is an extremely good reason to transfer. it automatically gives them something to write about, and schools know that it’s important to give those students the chance to earn their bachelors. that’s my observation anyway. the transfer advisor at my school also told me that (we accept a lot of transfers).</p>
<p>These are such faulty generalizations. Just because some school has a transfer agreement with a cc, it doesn’t logically follow that cc applicants would fare better at a different school (or even the same school for that matter). Unless you have acceptance rates contrasting cc applicants with 4 year college applicants to the same university, you cannot substantiate such sweeping claims.</p>
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This may be true but it still doesn’t in any way logically follow from this that cc applicants would have “an easier time getting into 4 year schools”</p>
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<p>How is it not logical to have a better successful transfer from a CC rather than a university? For one, the CC classes are far more likely to transfer to a university rather than another school because the whole point of a CC is structured so the students have the opportunity to obtain an associates and transfer thereafter into a 4 year institution. Furthermore, if there were two students with identical stats and standings trying to transfer to the same university, student A is at a CC while student B is at a university already, you would give the upper hand to student B? Student A would be more deserving of an admission spot because student B is already at a university and can get a degree from their current school but student A is at a CC. What logical theory do you have to rebuttal?</p>
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Prove it. Cite a source. </p>
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lol. It hardly matters what I personally would do; what matters is how the college you apply to perceives your previous institution. </p>
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Uh yeah ok. This is your OPINION. Unless you can prove that colleges in general feel this way (which they don’t), I’m calling BS</p>
<p>wow.everyone bashing illini telling him to give facts.why don’t you guys supply opposing statistics?</p>
<p>and it does logically follow that 2 students with identical academic records, one being at a university one being at a CC(assuming the CC is not for some reason considered far inferior to comparable university) the CC student would have a better reason for transfer admission. Also, we all know schools love to pad their admission statistics. I will not cite this because we all know it is true. Schools like to say they accept CC transfers. It reflects well on them.</p>
<p>As far as statistics, I believe if you look around at some of these “i got in” threads you will begin to see a pattern emerging favoring CC students. Like it was stated before, a CC student has a better reason for transfer(necessity) as opposed to a transfer like the OP (I want to go here because it is better than where I go now)</p>
<p>Honestly, it is probably easier to transfer from a CC with a 4.0 than from a regular university for the reasons already stated, but here are a lot of the problems you will likely run into:</p>
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<li><p>If you don’t get a very high GPA, which you very likely won’t, you’re probably not going to be able to transfer to a top college, rather to a school that you can get into from right now</p></li>
<li><p>Something may come up to prevent you from transferring, and then your stuck at a school you really don’t want to be at</p></li>
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<p>I think most people shouldn’t consider transferring until they spend at least a semester at the school they get into out of HS. You may be very well-suited for one of the schools you can get into as of now. So at least apply to some schools you’re looking at, and try really hard on your essays and 1st semester grades.</p>
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Uh because (1) the burden of proof is on him for saying things like “It is much more easier to transfer from a CC rather than a university,” and because (2) no one is claiming the opposite is true, genius. </p>
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Huh? I’m going to pass completely over the fact that you do not understand the rules of logical reasoning and say who are you to judge which student has a “better” reason for transferring? And notice I said “judge” because you are trying to pass off your unsubstantiated OPINION as some kind of empirical fact. Just because you THINK a cc student has a “better” rationale, this in no way translates to a better chance of admission in a broad sense.</p>
<p>Some schools (the UCs, most state universities) are very generous to cc applicants, while others (UChicago, Dartmouth, etc.) are not so generous (e.g. UChicago only accepts transfer credit from 4 year institutions and rarely admits cc applicants). Personal anecdote: for every 1 cc transfer at Cornell that I’ve met (and there are many), I’ve met 7 or 8 transfers from big 4 year schools like Berkeley, NYU, Binghamton, Union, USC, UPitt, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Rutgers, etc. </p>
<p>I’m not trying to impugn community colleges in any way but I feel obligated to call out blatant bulls**t.</p>
<p>“Huh? I’m going to pass completely over the fact that you do not understand the rules of logical reasoning and say who are you to judge which student has a “better” reason for transferring? And notice I said “judge” because you are trying to pass off your unsubstantiated OPINION as some kind of empirical fact. Just because you THINK a cc student has a “better” rationale, this in no way translates to a better chance of admission in a broad sense.”</p>
<p>CC student transfers from necessity(can’t get a bachelors)
a university student(especially in this case if you are reading the OP) is transferring for the name</p>
<p>of course a person could be transferring from a university because of a specific program that is only offered at one place, but that isn’t the case here</p>
<p>LOGICALLY necessity trumps prestige/dislike of school/whatever</p>
<p>even if you are going to a bad school that you hate, you do not have to transfer for a bachelors(assuming they offer identical programs)</p>
<p>a CC student has to transfer for a higher degree…</p>
<p>and after reading your posts I see you never implied that CC students had a better or worse chance at admission. You claim it is subjective and an opinion. However, where can one obtain these statistics? I have not seen a website that lists CC/university transfer rates. I have only seen transfer rates in general and restrictions(ie Uchicago as you mentioned)</p>
<p>You are asking for statistics that do not(to my knowledge) exist in any sort of official manner except hear say and such…</p>
<p>Prove you aren’t a brain in a vat…</p>
<p>Let me settle this for you. These are not my words but this is the correct statement.</p>
<p>“As part of the California Higher Education Master Plan, UCs give preference to California Community College students. This is to encourage students to take advantage of the California system, and to make sure students who are not financially capable of a UC still have the chance to go to one if they so desire. California Community College students are also offered programs like TAP and TAG, which boost their admission chances to UCs.”</p>
<p>Do not forget:</p>
<p>About 40% of total community college applicants were admitted to UC.
And about 13% of total transfer applicants from 4 year colleges were admitted to a UC</p>
<p>So, 40% versus 13%. I think it is obvious that CC students get higher priority. Especially considering that less UC students actually apply to other UC’s which should theoretically give them a higher chance at a higher %, but that is not the case. </p>
<p>You can easily find this information here [University</a> of California: StatFinder](<a href=“http://statfinder.ucop.edu/statfinder/default.aspx]University”>http://statfinder.ucop.edu/statfinder/default.aspx)</p>
<p>just to add second section last paragraph:[2009-2010</a> Transfer Guide](<a href=“http://www.registrar.vt.edu/tranguide/2009/vccsxfer.html]2009-2010”>http://www.registrar.vt.edu/tranguide/2009/vccsxfer.html)</p>
<p>And if I recall correctly similar language was on UVA’s, W&M’s, and JMU’s website.</p>