<p>I applied to University of Michigan EA with 3.6 uw. I'm taking 6 ap classes my senior year and was wondering do they care if I have bad 1st semester senior grades? If i get like a 3.2 or something</p>
<p>well if you get in EA then they won’t see your senior year grades.</p>
<p>They still require a transcript at the end of each semester if you get in. If you get in, you’ll have to get 3 c’s, D/F, or something like that for them to care though.</p>
<p>it takes a lot for them to care about your senior year grades, I ended with 3 C’s and didn’t hear anything. It may be more strict for like the Ivy’s but at UM it’s not too bad.</p>
<p>KyleTwntyEleven, Michigan is actually very strict with senior grades…and the Ivies are not more so. Most serious universities expect students to finish strong. A couple of Cs if the remaining grades remain in the A or B range is fine.</p>
<p>To the OP, if you are admitted EA, a 3.2 GPA senior year is prefectly fine as long as you do not have a D. However, if you are deferred, chances are a 3.2 GPA on your midyear report will pretty much equal rejection.</p>
<p>They won’t care EA, but with a 3.6 Unweighted, you will probably be deferred, unless you have absolutely mind blowing ECs and test scores. If you get deferred and then they see a 3.2, im fairly certain that would mean rejection, because then your senior year grades would be a huge factor in admission</p>
<p>And im not trying to be mean or harsh. A 3.6 still gives you a shot at admission, but for Early Action they are more strict with who they accept, our guidance counselor said that generally a 3.8 is needed for EA (we are an instate school with many kids sent each year so im trusting his judgement)</p>
<p>I had exactly the same problem as you my senior year. I had a 3.64 through 6 semesters and then I decided that I needed a boost to my application so I decided to take 5 APs my senior year. I got a 3.2 first semester, was deferred EA and ended up getting waitlisted and ultimately rejected. When I decided to try to transfer into Michigan, I went and spoke with the admissions counselors and they told me the reason I did not get in as a freshman was because of my weak senior grades. The most likely scenario for you will be what happened to me. You basically have to pray you get in EA or you’re done. Of course, if Michigan is your goal, it’s not over even if you don’t get in as a freshman. Work hard in college and you can always transfer in. It worked for me.</p>
<p>Well our school is really hard, ranked top 50 or so in the nation, and I took pretty much one of the most challenging curriculums, so that should be able to explain the somewhat below average GPA.</p>
<p>@vigilant111, unfortunately for you again, I went to a high school that is of the best in the state of Michigan and is the biggest pipeline school to Michigan. We had about 150 accepted to Michigan in my year out of a class of 720. I took one of the most challenging schedules as well. You need to both take a tough schedule and perform well.</p>
<p>@Alexandre - You took what I said out of context, I didn’t say Michigan wasn’t strict I said it wasn’t strict compared to the ivies. If you pulling 3 Ds at the end of senior year there will obviously be a problem, I’m just pointing out my situation as an example.</p>
<p>Yes it’s strict, but a 3.2 wouldn’t revoke your admission. My guess is it would take something 2.5 or lower for them to look. </p>
<p>I’d say, like everyone else, that grades are very important if you’re deferred.</p>
<p>I understood what you said KyleTwentyEleven. My point is that once admitted into a university, Michigan and the Ivies have virtually identical policies regarding senior year grades.</p>
<p>I would argue that they aren’t identical, but pretty close. If I was at Yale and got the grades I got last year I would have most likely been revoked last year. Again I’m not trying to put Michigan down by any means, but just pointing out that sometimes people take what actually happens out of context “Oh god one C will get me revoked style.” At Yale 2 Cs could be a major problem, at Michigan it won’t be. Just trying to point that out lol - I almost always agree with your posts, but I would definitely argue that the ivies are more strict in that regard.</p>
<p>I am not familiar with Yale, but I am with Cornell and Harvard. They have identical policies to Michigan. Two or three Cs are perfectly ok, although in all three universities, some explaining may be in order.</p>
<p>This said, how many Harvard (or Yale)-worthy students do you know that are prone to senioritis?</p>
<p>I had 3Cs and received a letter during the summer asking for an explanation</p>
<p>HYPS students are just as prone to senioritis as UM/UC-B/UNC students, it’s the same tier after all. Surely neither of us knows the complete data so there’s not reason to argue on that. I’m just running on observations and threads I’ve read over the past year on the ivies CC pages among other things. I also have personal experience with friends who got warning letters from UVA for having 2 C’s on their final report card. From my experience, Michigan is pretty lenient compared to other tier 1 schools on final grades. The data for this information is not released obviously. If you have familiarity with Cornell and Harvard I would take your word for it because I have no experience with either school. I’m just posting my personal experience which was - 3 Cs doesn’t get you a warning letter from Michigan, but 2 does (in 3 cases, I’m from VA and saw kids who got warning letters from both Yale and UVA about 2nd semester grades). </p>
<p>Not trying to create an argument, just pointing out my observations over the past year, surely you’ve been here much longer then I have and have seen a lot more information flow over the years, but I do have a lot of first hand knowledge with what different tier 1 universities do.</p>
<p>Kyle, I think senioritis cases are handled situationally, but the policy at most universities is uniform. In general, 3 Cs will not be well received at Michigan and will usually result in a letter asking for an explanation for the drop in grades. Some cases will naturally be overlooked should the university not notice (it is not possible to keep track of 6,000 freshmen) or should the Cs be in subjects of secondary importance, but in many cases, Michigan will ask for an explanation for a significant drop in grades.</p>