Bait and switch dorm rooms

<p>Thanks for mentioning Inside Track. I just looked it up, and it looks like a supplemental type of assistance, for transitioning or for learning those skills which will help students. Is it mandatory that one participates? Is it online, or a class format?</p>

<p>It does mention that there’s a fee starting sophomore year, should a student wish to continue.</p>

<p>Chapman needs to realize that the dorms were part of student decisions. Some students gave up Ivy League Universities for the film and music programs at Chapman. Students who study hard enough to get into the Ivies expect a minimal amount of room space at lesser universities that promise doubles to deciding high school seniors. USC did the right thing in buying permanent room space at the Radisson. NYU bought a bunch of hotels to house their students. This is what colleges do when they expand their student body. They don’t take back the kind of housing they had promised the students. Chapman got some big grands and donations lately. Some of that could go to providing doubles for those who expect them.</p>

<p>So you chose your college because of a double? Seriously?</p>

<p>If so, that has to be one of the absolute worst reasons for choosing a college I have ever heard.</p>

<p>Regarding Inside Track…you get assigned a counselor at the beginning of the year. They contact you and you have to go to the Inside Track building on campus and have a 15 minute meeting with them once a week. A lot of the time people just blow them off or make excuses so they don’t have to go. It’s a waste of time and money. Unless you really have no idea what you’re doing in college, then it is pointless. </p>

<p>I agree with funfun. Room space is actually a big issue here. Living in a triple is not good at all. It’s impossible to get any studying done. And it’s not like you can escape to the library because the library is barely open. With one roommate it’s a lot easier because they will either be out or they won’t be making too much noise. When you have two roommates, one will always be there and when they’re both there, they will be talking to each other, on the phone, etc. Basically the noise level increases a lot when you have two other people living with you. Especially when guests start coming and what not it can get too much. Also, everyone is usually on different schedules so you lose a lot of sleep because you are waken up by roommates coming home late or getting up early. </p>

<p>However, I cannot believe that someone would turn down an Ivy league school for Chapman. A Chapman education is definitely not even close to an Ivy league education. The only reason that would make sense for someone to turn down an Ivy for Chapman is because of money. Chapman gives out HUGE merit scholarships.</p>

<p>The ONLY scenario I can imagine even being close to reasonable were if 2 colleges of the same quality and general location, with the same COA, were to be differentiated by one having doubles as accomodation, and the other triples.</p>

<p>Other than that, the argument does not hold. As I mentioned before, my D and her roommates were so happy to be at Oxy that they (and a whole host of others) put up with being tripled into doubles, WITHOUT A/C!!</p>

<p>And they lived to tell the tale, and they moved on into doubles or off campus housing the next year, not having killed each other their frosh year.</p>

<p>LIVE WITH IT! Flexibility and learning to deal with stuff is what growing up is all about. Sacrifices are being made ALL AROUND, by everyone, in this economy. Maybe even by some of the posters’ parents who are going deep into debt for diplomas. There are also wars going on, and I know I’m thankful that my college aged kids aren’t in a draft, able to pursue their dreams. I know you don’t mean to sound petty, but it’s starting to sound that way…peace. :-)</p>

<p>Yeah, it really depends on why you’re at college. Personally, college for me is all about education. I want to make sure that I am getting as much education as I can for my money (which is why I’m leaving Chapman). Therefore, I don’t go to parties, get drunk, smoke, etc. I do socialize, but not in the same way as most college studnets. Since tuition already costs $20,000 for me, I am willing to spend another $1,000 for a double room if that means I can study more, sleep more, etc. It’s a very good investment in my opinion if you need the space, privacy, etc for studying. If not, then it’s not worth it. If you’re at college to party, then you will be much happier in a triple because it’ll mean that you’ll have more knowledge about parties/one more person to go partying with.</p>

<p>yuppers: valid points about the primacy of the educational part of the college experience. Especially crucial to be well matched if in triples - who needs additional distractions? I hope you land in the appropriate college for your goals! Now that you have some experience under your belt, how are you going about your search for another college with a business program to your liking?</p>

<p>For instance, Chapman is considered a B rated U but they have good talent programs. Students deciding whether school name is more important than say the film program will sometimes look to other factors as the key.</p>

<p>Some local students agree to accept Chapman on the condition that they can use the dorms as a home away from home.</p>

<p>Some students cannot sleep with other students in the room and know this will affect their college experience.</p>

<p>I guess I just don’t understand how the many previous generations went through college with multiple roommates, and that some in this generation seem to have problems with that idea!</p>

<p>Yeah, we’re not in the hippy age anymore. We like to study and have privacy…</p>

<p>FYI - hippydom lasted all of about 8 years. Some dorms with multiple inhabitants were built in the 1800s. Some folks have always studied whatever their situation, and some students in singles never will. So goes it.</p>

<p>Yes, very true. I guess all I was saying was that times have changed…the standard of living has increased considerably. You could also say…why do people nowadays use microwaves and computers? It’s because these things are available now and are pretty much standard.</p>

<p>I apologize if I come across as a bit peevish. Truth be told, I’m a bit self-chastizing because I feel that I’ve raised my 3 college aged kids to be a bit coddled, expecting certain things out of life, which actually may never come to fruition in their lifetimes.</p>

<p>Reality is such that the new “normal”, after this recession/depression works its way through, might only support a less affluent set of lifestyle choices. My D has actually stated that she’s prepared not to have the same standard of living as an adult that she was accustomed to as an adolescent. That’s what I’m driving at - we have to be flexible because it’s good for us to be able to handle what’s coming at us, and a LOT will be coming at all of us.</p>