<p>Is anyone concerned that they waited until after everyone submitted their intent to register before they decided to use the brand new dorm for singles for juniors and seniors while crowding the freshmen into triple sardine cans? </p>
<p>They have more dorms than they ever had before. The freshmen were originally slated to get all doubles. Now our class is being stiffed. The dorm rooms are so small that there is no room with a third bed.</p>
<p>Are you speaking from specific knowledge about the double rooms in the Residence Center becoming singles? Why would they do that?</p>
<p>It looks like the new dorm has 4 types of room arrangements, so you’d have to know quite specific information about what is happening in each room type in order to know that they’re performing a switcheroo. I’m sure they’re having to use some of the larger doubles in the existing dorms to accomodate more frosh than they’ve previously enrolled.</p>
<p>It’s probable that no one will get a straight story from anyone in official capacity.</p>
<p>Sandy,</p>
<p>My son, a sophomore is going to be in a 2 room suite in the new residence hall. With three other roommates. It is also very pricey, and believe me, if he could have gotten a room in his first or second choice, we would be spending less on housing next year. But it was full.</p>
<p>Sorry if you feel you were stiffed, but I believe you have inaccurate information. Have you looked at the floor plans on the website for each of the housing types in each hall?<br>
You will find the description for each of the rooms with the floor plans.</p>
<p>For the new residence hall: </p>
<p>[Chapman</a> University - Res Life - Housing Options - Residences - Residence Center](<a href=“Page Not Found | Chapman University”>Page Not Found | Chapman University)</p>
<p>There are four options for the residence center. 300 beds total in that building.</p>
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<li><p>There are double occupancy rooms, which would hold two students.</p></li>
<li><p>There are single occupany suites, which will hold two students.</p></li>
<li><p>There are two bedroom suites, which will hold four students.</p></li>
<li><p>There are four bedroom suites, which will hold four students.</p></li>
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<p>This is what it says at the website:
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<p>If you want to look at all the housing options for undergrads, go check out this link:</p>
<p>[Chapman</a> University - Res Life - Housing Options - Residence Halls](<a href=“Page Not Found | Chapman University”>Page Not Found | Chapman University)</p>
<p>My son is also a freshman this year…and was tripled…if you end up being tripled you should keep 2 of the beds bunked, then there is plenty of room…kids (girls mainly) who want all 3 beds on the floor do lack a bit of floor space…in a triple, one dresser usually has to go in the closet, one in the room along a wall and one under the single lofted bed…the 3 desks were put in a grouping together…3 big guys made it work just fine…you just can’t bring everything you own from home because you will be sharing about 12 feet of hanging space in the closet…</p>
<p>Ever since they started building the new residence hall, it has been stated that the new dorm would be for upperclassman and not freshman…I don’t know how the housing process worked for upperclassmen getting/not getting their 1st or 2nd choice for next year because my son decided to move off campus into a rented house with a few other kids…</p>
<p>Contrary to what freshmen were told, they aren’t being given a choice at all. I was also told by the tour guide that freshmen would receive doubles.</p>
<p>A solution would be for everyone stuck in a triple to set up a tent city on campus until the dorms assignments are made fair.</p>
<p>So would it have been better for less freshmen to be accepted to Chapman, this year? Would you be willing to give up your spot in the Freshman class so that you don’t have to be tripled?</p>
<p>Good luck with the Tent City idea. I hope that works out for you. If you don’t like it, go live off campus. Nobody is making you live in the dorms. Go find housing off campus with people you meet on facebook. </p>
<p>Do you really think that there are all kinds of students that have chosen singles? Did you see how much more expensive singles are? Almost double the price of a double. I don’t know many parents willing to pay up so their kids have privacy - unless there is a medical issue.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t mind a triple here. More roomies, more fun! </p>
<p>Maybe.</p>
<p>Two years ago my D roomed as triples in a double at Oxy which was quite a bit smaller than the Moran hall room we were shown on our tour of Chapman. All I can say was that all three girls were so happy to be at Oxy that they didn’t complain too much, finding their happiness sophomore year.</p>
<p>One would hope that the students at Chapman are as flexible and resilient.</p>
<p>i think transfers have to be tripled too D: but i dun currrrrr ill be happy just to be there</p>
<p>I think the big issue is whether any juniors and seniors are getting singles. There is a fundamental fairness issue here. </p>
<p>It defies reason that they would have more rooms and less space. Admissions didn’t say anything about the number of students increasing. Are they telling us that class sizes are going to be doubled? IF triples are necessary with a new dorm building, then the average class size will double. The UC classes are looking up.</p>
<p>Chapman tour guides are known for lying. If they didn’t, people wouldn’t come here. Yes, there is a new resident hall…but it’s only because they knocked down the hall that was there before. Therefore, not too many more rooms are being added. The residence center was never going to be for freshmen. They have already designated specific residence halls for freshmen. They are even thinking about grouping you guys based on your FFC class. </p>
<p>Triples can be a struggle. There is very limited space and there is almost always an odd man out. </p>
<p>Yes, singles are available for non-first year students. Even though they are obviously more expensive than doubles or triples, a lot of people at Chapman can more than afford them. </p>
<p>I know a lot of freshman want to live in dormitories to meet people. But the truth is that Chapman is a commuter and weekend commuter school, meaning that on the weekends there are almost zero events and the dorms/campus is deserted. A lot of people who live in the dorms actually live 10 min to 1 hour away so they go home pretty much every weekend. The people who do not live as close to home tend to go to other universities to have fun, but you would need a car to do that. </p>
<p>Most people, after freshmen year, either get houses or rent apartments off-campus that are either the distance of a long bike ride or short car ride.</p>
<p>What is the general cost of off campus housing, versus dorms/apts. on campus?</p>
<p>I don’t know too much about off campus options. Most people rent a house or rent apartments. There are a few great apartments close by such as the Aspen apartments. I believe those are $2000 a month for a 2 bedroom apartment (and 2 parking spaces, but you can also rent more spaces). So if you have 4 roommates that would be $500 a month, which is much cheaper than Chapman’s price. Plus, you wouldn’t have to keep a meal plan. I think Chapman has a price listing of residence halls and rooms on their website. I believe most are around $11,000 a year.<br>
Also for off-campus, people are always looking for roommates. There are often postings on the bulletin boards on campus. I usually see some that are around $600 a month.
You should be able to find something decent that is within your budget.</p>
<p>Also note that Chapman apartments are only for juniors, seniors, or if you’re over 21. Chapman apartments are okay, and they are cheaper than the dorms. The apartments are even cheaper if you cancel your meal plan and start cooking yourself.</p>
<p>Just curious, is there air conditioning in the dorms and residence halls? It gets uber hot in the OC sometimes</p>
<p>yes, there is either an individual ac/heat in each room, or central air. Central air will automatically switch from ac to heat in the fall and then switches back to ac in the spring. A lot of people use the heat during winter time cause it can get pretty cold by Cali standards. It got down to below 50 degrees.</p>
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<p>More rooms, less space. Maybe. Depends on how many people said yes, this year. Are you familiar with how enrollment management works at a university? Acceptances are given to 3-4 times the number of students that can actually attend a university. When the students submit their statements of intent to register, along with a deposit, if every student said “Yes”, the school would collapse. Any school. There is only so much room. That never happens, because most students apply to more than one school, often 5-10 more. That means that the students will be telling those other schools, no thank you, freeing up room for the freshman class.</p>
<p>Has a school ever overestimated their numbers? Sure. In the Los Angeles area, just a few years back, both LMU and USC gave offers of admission to more than they could house in dorms. So they rented out hotels/hotel rooms for those students. The following year, it is possible admissions may have adjusted their numbers of students to accept, because of it. </p>
<p>Yield is a big problem. The colleges want to give out acceptances, and they want every freshman and transfer student to be happy. But what if they make a mistake? What if, not enough freshman say yes? Then the wait list is wide open and transfers have it made. </p>
<p>Your math logic was kind of fuzzy, though, funfun. Let’s go through it, shall we?</p>
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<p>If there are approx 4500 Chapman undergrads, and they have to create space for 300 students that don’t have a place to live (the size of the new residence housing), then how would class sizes double? </p>
<p>We already know from their website that this dorm can acommodate 300 students total. This is not all in singles. It is in quads, triples, doubles and a few singles. Do the math. Less than 10% of the current undergrad population. Not even close to doubling class sizes. In a class of 25 students, you might add a couple of seats to a course. Not hundreds of extra seats, or 50 seats or even 5 seats. You are making a bigger deal than necessary and leaping to all kinds of assumptions that are outrageous.</p>
<p>Another issue that you need to consider with yield is this: you can’t know exactly which students will live on campus vs off campus. Freshman aren’t required to live on campus, and there are many commuter students that get a spot, but won’t live on campus, or off campus in an apt, because they will drive from home.</p>
<p>I guess I am wondering if those future students who are coming to Chapman ever actually looked at the housing website which has had this information up all year long. If I knew last year as a parent (from looking at the website when my son was a freshman LAST FALL) that the new residential housing units were going to be for sophomores and up, then how did those here at CC when they were applying for college never see it? It is up there for anyone to research. </p>
<p>There is an old saying about Buyer Beware. This means becoming educated about your choices. Don’t take things at face value. For a generation that has more access to information than any other generation in the world, I find it oddly unsettling that too many future students listen only to a tour guide who is a current student, and never actually researched the question online. </p>
<p>Go check out the housing website. It is in Student Life at Chapman. Read up on the rules. Look at the options. While you are at it, read up on what clubs and activities are on campus. Read the GE/Core Breadth requirements. You are all going to learn much in college, but one of the most important lessons is to learn these things for YOURSELF. Ask questions. Make phone calls. </p>
<p>Many of you will rather text than make a phone call. It is painful, I know. You might actually have to talk to people! When you do, jot down the person’s name. Write down the date when you called. Ask your questions. Then thank them. If you have other questions in the future, call back and ask for them by name. In a college the size of Chapman, you will run across these same people in the housing office, in the registrar’s office, in the department offices and financial aid. </p>
<p>This information has been widely available for months, yet so many are complaining, feeling bitter over what they see as a slight. It isn’t. You just didn’t get all the facts, which isn’t Chapman’s fault, nor is it the tour guide’s fault (most of them are students, themselves.) Those facts were there from before you even turned in the application for admission. </p>
<p>Life is up to you. Do your homework, whether you are buying a car, researching a college, or a term paper. You have to sometimes dig, fact check, and ask tough questions. But you will be better in the end for going the extra mile. Promise.</p>
<p>Excellent response, LGM. I think this year is throwing TONS of schools out of whack. A friend of mine’s S didn’t even make the cut at Annapolis, which in any other given year would have looked like a shoe-in.</p>
<p>Also, I just visited the Oxy site and saw a post that since they’ve oversubscribed their offers, that there would be NO ONE taken from the waitlist.</p>
<p>We all need to just take a deep breath, go with the flow. This year is an outlier, it seems.</p>
<p>I don’t think the person was actually wondering if class sizes are being doubled. They were simply trying to figure out why there would still be triples for freshmen. The thing with the Residence Center is that since it is brand new and is offering suite styles/singles, more people are opting to live on campus next year than normally would. Basically, housing demand has increased. </p>
<p>Also, a lot of students DO in fact research housing, classes, etc. I know I do and all of my friends do. We do pick up the phone and call places like the academic advising center. We also go and visit the housing and residence life office, the academic advising center, and the business office. I think the reason why kids get confused is because a lot of the answers to the questions they ask are very complicated…for example, graduation requirements. The other thing too is that the people in charge of these places are incompetent and are unable to give us an answer. When I called the academic advising center my first year, I asked them about courses and they replied with: “uhhh…yeah…I think so.” Or else one of the advisors will tell you one thing and another will tell you something else.</p>
<p>Yes, Yuppers. My point is that none of us, whether we are students or parents, should assume we have all the answers, and continue to be persistent.</p>
<p>I was one of those undergrads all those years ago that found out May of my senior year that my counselor screwed up my grad requirements from a transfer. I think that is why I am trying to tell you all to be extra vigilant, and persistent when it comes to dealing with on-campus issues.</p>
<p>Luckily, it is easier for you to keep track at Chapman through Webadvisor. The tools are there and are much easier to use in terms of keeping on schedule for graduation. Inside Track coaching will likely help, too, if it is still being offered. </p>
<p>There may be more people living on campus, or just more students. Not sure yet. I don’t believe that Chapman has released those numbers yet, since transfers still have not all been notified. Housing is not cheap there, though. I am looking forward to when my son goes to off-campus housing. It is just too pricey compared to other colleges residence living options, IMO.</p>
<p>Inside Track is actually not much help at all. A lot of people would rather not have it. It basically just means more time out of our busy schedules. The school claims it is free for your first year. This may or may not be true. I do know for sure that after your first year, it costs A LOT to have an Inside Track coach. They automatically assume you are going to have one your second year so they charge you for it. If you want to cancel, you have to fill out a waiver.</p>