<p>Don't forget the advantage of Hewitt Dining Hall to Columbia students!</p>
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However, I can't see how Barnard really benefits a Columbia student. Dance? Is that it?
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let's say you're a guy, and you have a choice between going to some engineering school that's 20-30% women, vs going to SEAS where between BC and CC/SEAS the campus undergrads are 65% women. And you're a bit geeky and awkward but you'd like a girlfriend and think college is a great time for that. where do you choose to go?</p>
<p>Sincerely,
Loves his Barnard ladies</p>
<p>HaHA, Denzera. After spending much of last week with my d and her delightful friends there (went to assist with the packing/cleaning of the suite), I begin to wonder if you are not among them....</p>
<p>forget it, he's gunning for primefactor.</p>
<p>("oh sorry, that paper can't get emailed, but maybe we can meet someplace and I can give it to you...')</p>
<p>Monydad, Denzera's "bit geeky and awkward" description just rang a bell with regards to some of the really brilliant and delightful friends my daughter has made, and with whom I was able to spend some time. Barnard, CC and SEAS students who have become fast friends.... I just thought it would be pretty funny if one of the people I met last week turned out to be, in fact, our buddy Denzera!</p>
<p>The diploma you receive after four years is from Columbia University.</p>
<p>Until the mid 80s, women attending Columbia University were admitted through Barnard College, undergraduate men were admitted though Columbia College.</p>
<p>Students who get into Barnard and not Columbia should NOT refer to themselves as Columbia students. You applied to BARNARD. You attend BARNARD. Yes it's right next to Columbia and they work together - but you're s*** compared to Columbia students. Just accept it.</p>
<p>Forget about what the diploma says - do your kids get legacy status when they apply to Columbia? Do you get access to Columbia's alumni career network? Do you participate in all of the same events and traditions Columbia students do? Do you get the same kind of financial aid, take ALL of the same kinds of classes and NOT just some of the same classes (there are HIGH SCHOOL students who take classes at Princeton if they live nearby - are they Princeton University students? Of course not), and compete against the same kinds of students than the people who get into Columbia do? Does your transcript say you're a student of Columbia?</p>
<p>Only if you meet all those criteria can you count yourself as a Columbia student/alum.</p>
<p>As the dad of a soon-to-be Columbia College student, I find the various "What is the true Columbia?" issues amusing, yet divisive. CC vs. SEAS, Columbia vs. Barnard, Columbia vs. GS, etc. Is the administration (presumably at the umbrella level) doing anything to clarify all of this, or at least mute the emotional divisiveness?</p>
<p>Wow, no offense, but you really need to get a life. Not that it really matters to me what you think, whether or not I'm a current Barnard student, but to have this much intense animosity toward a group of people seems a little disturbing to me in general. Maybe you should focus your energy on your studies, not belittling people you don't even know.</p>
<p>let's just try not to be mean -- im sure there are many barnard girls who do not say they attend columbia. im sure many are proud to go to barnard (they should be). though i met one girl who did sorta lie in my calc II class this summer, -- "honey, i go to columbia, this **** is easy for me." :O -- i doubt the majority of girls do.</p>
<p>i understand how it can be annoying, as we all worked very hard to be accepted into CC or SEAS, but let's not badmouth all of them. howeverrrrrrrr i dont know about all this "the stats are the same" stuff. Sorry. instead of arguing about how they are equal, just be proud that both are quite good.</p>
<p>-cu 2013</p>
<p>in response to randombetch, wait wt-f, there shouldn't be any response to randombetch, the best punishment is leaving him/her alone in their little world of angry schizophrenia. So please everyone just ignore the post. </p>
<p>And as a current columbia student I can assure you that no such overt hostility exists. There is a poking fun at schools and the usual camaraderie, and once in a blue moon a little resentment, nothing out of the ordinary. </p>
<p>when a Barnard girl says she goes to Columbia you have 3 options:</p>
<p>1) she could be right
2) she could be wrong
3) WHO GIVES A FU*K</p>
<p>^If the general response is 3), my question is answered. No need for the administration to take action.</p>
<p>that is, generally speaking, the response. the only people who give a crap will be a handful of CC freshmen girls (almost universally), who harbor some sort of bitterness and still cling to the delusion that life owes them something, they have earned respect and admiration from all, and they'll be damned if they're going to see it cheapened by some pansy bint on the other side of Broadway. a handful are also bitter over barnard students "stealing their men".</p>
<p>most get over it, and the handful who don't aren't worth knowing anyway. sounds like randombetch (nice handle there - very subtle way to say b!tch and not get caught... you're so darned clever, you little minx) falls into the latter.</p>
<p>"most get over it, and the handful who don't aren't worth knowing anyway. sounds like randombetch (nice handle there - very subtle way to say b!tch and not get caught... you're so darned clever, you little minx) falls into the latter."</p>
<p>HAHAHA</p>
<p>Damn straight, those lesbian barnyard b!tches stole my men! ALL OF THEM! But I won them back. Hah. CC: 1 BC: 0</p>
<p>and like a cat, who, upon claiming the ball of string she had once chased, tosses it aside, the challenge gone... you now have little use for those Columbia men you once sought. </p>
<p>Shakespeare's seen your act before, he wrote a play about it, and he's not impressed :)</p>
<p>PS: I love Columbia men. Even if they went to Barnard.</p>
<p>Oh, wait...</p>
<p>Amazing thread, this. </p>
<p>And everyone could have done better. The Barnard girls should have gone to Wellesley.</p>
<p>The Columbia College elitists should have gone to a college with real prestige, Harvard or Princeton perhaps.</p>
<p>And Columbia for engineering when there is MIT out there, really what a joke.</p>
<p>oh goody! a troll!</p>
<p>let's review. sorghum...</p>
<p>is</a> in a habit of telling people columbia sucks, on the columbia board, cares</a> way too much about rankings, and is</a> clearly a parent, Vietnam vet, and supports the draft</p>
<p>speaking of "could have done better", I suggest you go to your PTSD therapy session and stop playing Internet Tough Guy.</p>
<p>Excellent! Hooked a big fish just like that!</p>