<p>I went to Barnard, fine school. My diploma is from Columbia University. My daughter went to an info session, asked if she had legacy status, was told, "yes, if your mother graduated before '85." She got a likely letter a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>I since attended graduate school at two of the biggest and best state schools, "public ivies." And I've taught at private as well as public universities. The education that young women get at Barnard is terrific: like the young women across the street, they have the resources of one of the world's greatest cities, and the most important university in one of the world's greatest cities, available. </p>
<p>While I was skeptical of Columbia's motives when they decided to start admitting women, a factor of New York is that it is always undergoing change. I recently got back from a trip there, and must say that New York, and the resources of Columbia, are incomparable, although they aren't for everyone, and it takes a lot of self-confidence (the sort of thing that young women often learn at Barnard) to make good use of them.</p>
<p>*that is, generally speaking, the response. the only people who give a crap will be a handful of CC freshmen girls (almost universally), who harbor some sort of bitterness and still cling to the delusion that life owes them something, they have earned respect and admiration from all, and they'll be damned if they're going to see it cheapened by some pansy bint on the other side of Broadway. a handful are also bitter over barnard students "stealing their men".</p>
<p>most get over it, and the handful who don't aren't worth knowing anyway. sounds like randombetch (nice handle there - very subtle way to say b!tch and not get caught... you're so darned clever, you little minx) falls into the latter. *</p>
<p>HOW do people NOT give a crap?!? I don't even go to Columbia and I find it PATHETIC that these Barnard girls even compare themselves to Columbia students. It's ridiculous, and it waters down the accomplishment of actually gaining entrance into Columbia. </p>
<p>I'm pretty sure you have no basis for your generalization, and you seem quite biased to defend these Barnard *betches<a href="haha">/i</a>.</p>
<p>Speaking of stereotyping, I can tell what school you're going to just by the tone of your posts. A quick glance at your post history confirmed my suspicions :D</p>
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Speaking of stereotyping, I can tell what school you're going to just by the tone of your posts. A quick glance at your post history confirmed my suspicions
<p>In my world it’s Columbia, but I never called it Columbia. In my mother’s world it’s Columbia-- and she calls it Columbia when she knows it’s BARNARD. There is a distinction between the two, problem is the obvious fact that Barnard seems to be Columbia’s shadow, at the end of the day your noted for attending Columbia. Also, I believe every student is bound to take at least one class at Columbia because Barnard does not offer it. I think it’s worse for women who opt for hard degrees. Though, I know there are some people here who are devout to Barnard, I’m not bashing it at all, I love the school. My cousin graduated in 93 from that school.</p>
<p>Barnard’s difference is in the difference in the attitude of the women who attend the school vs the women who attend Columbia… Barnard girls tend to speak out more, mainly because at Barnard they are molded into great and confident women.</p>
<p>Columbia’s acceptance is higher than Princeton’s… From what I remember Princeton accepts 9%, Columbia accepts 23-25%(?) I’m pretty close. I believe Barnard does send out their “likely” letters by mail.</p>
<p>Since decisions have now been released I think I can share this factoid: This year, the combined admissions rate for CC+SEAS (even including the fact that SEAS self-selects to a huge degree) was 9.81%.</p>
<p>“Barnard is an official college of Columbia University”
Yes the word OF, it was in my acceptance packet. But by the way, I will not refer to it as Columbia when I tell people, just for you.</p>