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<p>I meant 15 to 24k a yr, for two years about. No with 50k, you cannot buy a bedroom of that nature. Are you a rep for baruch? It seems like you are. I mean if I were to get into Stern or Cornell AEM or even columbia and pay 45-50k for the last two years, I would probably do it. Actually Columbia probably is much less than 50k, as I fall under their bracket for ivy league schools. </p>

<pre><code> I’ll probably also meet a great girl at one of these schools much more likely, then if I were to continue at baruch. Plus, I will probably get a better job, have a much better experience and get into a better MBA, as my undergrad is better.
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<p>[US</a> News & World Report Baruch College Among The Best In The Nation](<a href=“http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/news/USNews2010.htm]US”>http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/news/USNews2010.htm)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/news/2006_rankings.htm[/url]”>http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/news/2006_rankings.htm&lt;/a&gt;
(Quote: The Zicklin School’s full-time MBA ranks third overall in New York City, behind Columbia University’s School of Business and NYU’s Stern School of Business.)</p>

<p>Price: Baruch<<<<<<<Columbia<NYU</p>

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<p>Its fine comparing undergrad between NYU and Baruch because of the price but if you are going to compare MBA programs, I’ll even give you the benefit of the doubt and use a 2006 ranking you linked, Baruch is 64th overall for MBA. that is more than 50 schools worse than NYU and Columbia.</p>

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<p>Posted by commentcomment, "…but if you are going to compare MBA programs, I’ll even give you the benefit of the doubt and use a 2006 ranking you linked, Baruch is 64th overall for MBA. that is more than 50 schools worse than NYU and Columbia. "</p>

<p>There are thousands of MBA programs in the U.S., and being at number 33 isn’t bad at all. If you look at MBA programs in New York, Baruch’s MBA program is 3-rd, which is really good. </p>

<p>Quote: “The Zicklin School’s full-time MBA ranks third overall in New York City, behind Columbia University’s School of Business and NYU’s Stern School of Business. The magazine also rated the program 33rd in its list of the top public MBA programs in the country. Baruch’s part-time MBA program was rated the 25th best in the country.”</p>

<p>If we compare NYU and Baruch in terms of tuition:</p>

<p>200k at NYU vs 20k or ZERO (if a person is NY resident and eligible for Pell Grant) at Baruch, we may clearly see that NYU costs 10 times more than Baruch, BUT it does not mean that it is 10 times better.</p>

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<p>Where are you getting that quote from? For undergrad, I agree it might be smart to attend Baruch instead of NYU because of price and also because it is not your final degree, however, if you are comparing MBA programs and you got into NYU and Baruch, most people will attend NYU even if it costs 2-3 times more than Baruch. Reason is simple, a better MBA program will have more talented and successful people. That may not be the case in undergrad because they judge acceptance by SAT and GPA but a huge portion of the screening process for MBA is work experience and references. The better connected people attend better schools.</p>

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<p>I would not attend Baruch MBA even if I was the last man on earth. I just wouldn’t. Its not my cup of tea. I rather go to a top MBA. Plus my employer can pay for my MBA at STERN or Columbia MBA, now is that a good deal? </p>

<p>Rankings don’t mean much actually. Reputation and prestidge matters more in getting jobs and other exit chances. A school like Stern has big reputation and prestidge, while baruch doesn’t.</p>

<p>Plus I don’t trust your sources. First of all Baruch isn’t ranked high at all. GPA and sat averages and other stuff to get into baruch is average to slightly above average.
Meanwhile to get into stern you need like 1400 plus on SAT, high gpa, great resume and business related stuff. Come on, it no comparison. People who got to baruch don’t become much smarter than when they entered it.</p>

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<p>Baruch Fulltime Honors MBA alumnus here. For the record, not everyone goes to business school for the prestige. Many of us would have been competitive for schools with bigger brands, but decided to attend Baruch for reasons that don’t involve name dropping. I had a 740 GMAT, an undergraduate degree from a top engineering school and about five years of experience in the software industry before I decided that I wanted a formal business education to move a little bit more towards the business side of things. At Baruch, I took classes with professors who had previously taught at Wharton, HBS, Cornell and other top business schools and I received exactly the education that I was seeking. After my time there, I received an offer managing a small business group with a healthy bump in compensation over my previous job… which was exactly what I wanted, and I didn’t have to pay $80k+ to get it.</p>

<p>I would also like to address the “talented and successful people” remark. During my time at Baruch, the list of undergraduate schools represented by my fellow FTH MBAs included Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Dartmouth, Brown, UCLA, Wellesley, etc. In my cohort of ~40 we had a few engineers, lawyers, an MD and even a Bollywood star. These aren’t talentless and unsuccessful people. They’re just people with a different career arc.</p>

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<p>About the Pell Grant…</p>

<p>Do you have to be in state to go for free? I’d be coming from Jersey and into the Honors College.</p>

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<p>If you get into the Honors program, you will study for free.</p>

<p>In state students do not go for free; however, the majority of students receive a Pell Grant/TAP, which covers the whole tuition.</p>

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<p>[Baruch</a> College Ranked at #25 Among Best Colleges in Region, According to U.S. News & World Report](<a href=“http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/news/usnews2011_ranking.htm]Baruch”>http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/news/usnews2011_ranking.htm) :)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/news/forbes_2010.htm[/url]”>http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/news/forbes_2010.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>That Best Regional Universities thing is a joke. Schools in my region that people go to as a last resort made it in the top 25. I mean, think about what a regional university means…the school isn’t attractive enough to people in the US to attract students all around the country. So…Tier 2 “National” Universities get stuck in a bad category while these schools that are even worse get “ranked” because they are “Regional Universities”?</p>

<p>Stupidity of US News strikes again. What a joke.</p>

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<p>Most students in baruch college aren’t that smart. The average sat is like 1100 at best, that is probably inflated with the honors and macaulay students. </p>

<p>I mean come on now, do you really expect the students to be very smart, driven, etc on average? Why would they be at baruch for? Only reason is if they couldn’t afford a good private college or are in the honors programs or they barely missed getting into the good colleges. Still most people rather go to another college than baruch if they missed out on the top tier colleges. There are also a good number of dumb type kids it seems. The standards to get in are low, you don’t have to do anything special to get into baruch college. </p>

<p>Also there is no reputation with baruch college, except that it is good for business. I go to the honors program, and I must say, the kids in the regular college are annoying, The commute sucks balls and there are a lot of ****ty people that seem to walk through 23 street and the area. Its annoying because people think youre just a baruch college student when in fact im a honors student. I get no sense of achievement or even respect because of this. I guarantee most top tier college students in top 30 colleges in the US are not going to be too happy in baruch college even in the honors program.</p>

<p>You want to go to college with like minded people as yourself, people who are top tier students essentially. The quality of the people increases at these colleges in general. Its like living in a good neighborhood, you don’t want to be around a bad neighborhood at</p>

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<p>also the top 25 thing is stupid, you want to go to a top 3-4 college in nyc in truth. Columbia, nyu, macaulay/honors program.</p>

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<p>batmanAA,</p>

<p>Why do you call those students not smart? The smartness is not measured with GPA or SAT scores. The GPA and SAT scores only show if a person is willing to study/learn, and how good or bad he/she is at it. I know that the majority of students there are just slacking off, but you do not have a right to call them “stupid.”</p>

<p>My definition of a smart person is when his/her brain is able to analyse and process the information faster than other’s people’s brains do. (take a look at computers–some of them have faster/better processors than others) Also, the smart person has a better memory and logic. Those slackers may be smarter than you, even though you are studying at honors college. Only a scientific experiments can reveal who is smarter, so please do not call other people not smart because they might be smarter than you, despite their GPA and SAT scores.</p>

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<p>Even if they are smart or not, they obviously messed up in high school academically. I mean at this point if people lack work ethics and other traits, there future isn’t looking good. Also gpa and sat are good indicators actually. I mean how smart can you be if you score so low on sats or if you can’t do well in classes that aren’t too difficult? A smart person can get a decent average and sat score without too much work. This isn’t the point I was trying to make though. What good is a group of students if they may be smart or even very smart if they lack work ethic and desire to better themselves?</p>

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<p>Hello fellow students,</p>

<p>I’m seeing a lot of chat here without much meat should I say to the subject or the original intent of the question.</p>

<p>I am currently working in a very prestigious company but I’m beginning to hate what I’m doing. Although going forward a career in operations can go as much as 100K plus in a relative short time I feel I want to do something more meaningful. I have 3 degrees, philosophy, math and economics from fairly well known school, but unfortunately what decides how you go up is the name not how smart you are. We have traders that are complete morons but they are traders because they finished in a well known school and that’s all there is. But sometimes if you have a good GPA and a balanced education and if the market picks up(a big IF) you can probably make it.</p>

<p>I live in NY and I have a few friends that went to Baruch that were quite successful afterwards I must admit and of course I know people who went to the other “two giants”, Stern and Columbia.</p>

<p>Let’s start with Stern,
Personally if I had to chose between Stern and Baruch, for the cost but not only I would chose Baruch. NYU Stern is becoming a school where most of the body is from India proper, basically you see only rich Indian kids and rich American kids who have money to waste and nothing more. Of course to some that is the experience, but not an academic experience I must say. The rise to prominence of the Stern program came with a bunch of very successful investment bankers who finished at the right time(85-95) and become multimillionaires offshoring jobs to India and China. Over this timespan the tuition of this school increased disproportionately with the value of education you really get. It’s essentially a ticket to a prestigious club and you get to meet connected people, but by no mean necessarily smart people. For the times we live now, it’s overpriced, overrated. Hands down I chose Baruch.</p>

<p>Now to Columbia, this gem is a different story. If I had to chose I’d go to Columbia, their program is probably the best in the United States that gives you international reach. I know several people who finished the program from the 60’s until even now in this crappy time and they are I must add very well placed and very successful. It is however insanely expensive, and although I live in NY and I have saved money over the past few years I’m not sure if it will pay off in the current environment against business and against finance.</p>

<p>For the cost I might end up going to Baruch, combine it with an MFE and with good grades there are many opportunities in the nyc area to strike gold. With the top tier schools, even Stern you don’t know if you will necessarily get connected. Perhaps you’ll end up with a glorified investor relations role somewhere in a prestigious firm, but people here think that going to NYU or Columbia is automatic stardom multi-million success. The reality is quite different.</p>

<p>Baruch suffers not from it’s reputation, but it suffers because like every other country, here in America everything works through networking, and when I say networking, I mean i’m X Y Z the III and my dad went here and I went to this boarding school, or I’m xyz from China or India and my dad is the ceo of xyz company. When you finish Columbia, and this is a true story, if you can’t find a job, their offices that assist with employment will give you a huge list of managers in companies ranging from GS to Blackrock and you just call them up and you can find a job even if you played frees-bee your entire stay. I know several people that couldn’t find a job right after school and after 3 months the school stepped in and placed them accordingly. Hence their stats post-graduation are unmatchable.</p>

<p>But please, enough of the superficial crap, people here treat Baruch as if its Phoenix online college or some other crap. I challenge a 4.0 NYU Ugrad to repeat that 4.0 in Baruch MBA. It won’t happen.</p>

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<p>TheAmerican,</p>

<p>So what do you plan to do right now? Are you going for a MBA or MFE? Baruch is not a bad school at all, and it has a decent reputation in NY. To make it clear, here is some information regarding some MBA programs at Baruch:</p>

<p>“Baruch’s Part-Time MBA is ranked 17th in the nation by U.S. News & World Report (“America’s Best Graduate Schools 2007”), making it second in New York City. The Full-Time MBA was ranked in the top three of New York programs. Both were the only ranked public programs in New York State.”</p>

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<p>the naivety on this thread is somewhat ridiculous. You need to attend the place you feel comfortable with. Judge this based upon where you see yourself in 10 years and which program has the best track record for similar candidates. NYU is hands down a fantastic school and so is Baruch. NYU may be a little preferred for networking purposes, but I know plenty of Baruch grads (my business partner, for example) who I would much rather work with than some NYU or Columbia grads.</p>

<p>The same ****ty textbooks are used and a lot of CUNY professors also teach at NYU or Columbia. Sometimes the same course with the same textbook for 1/10 of the cost. The value in the private school is the prestige, networking, access to many more resources and big projects, etc. </p>

<p>Ultimately whether you go to community college or Harvard Business, the unique characteristics of the person define success. Don’t judge it by a school to school basis. NYU and other schools are notorious for simply charging a ridiculous rate to attach a name to graduates who would have been successful with or without a fancy school title. Judge the program by the fit to you and not by the price tag.</p>

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<p>…and people who get denied from Kingsborough go to Princeton, *****.</p>

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<p>Is it tough to get into Baruch immediately after graduating for the MS Accounting program? I know often times it’s not as important to have work experience with the MS accounting as it would be when applying for an MBA program.</p>