<p>"Wait. Princeton and Yale don't even have UG or Grad. business schools (unless I'm mistaken). Wharton (UG/Grad), Haaarhhhvaaaddd (Grad), MIT (UG/Grad) and Stanford (Grad) are powerhouses when it comes to a business education and success rate."</p>
<p>We're just talking about overall prospects in the business world...a school doesn't need to offer a BBA to accomplish that.</p>
<p>It's a stepping stone. But, I agree a school doesn't have to have to attend a business school for one to be successful, but on the other hand, it doesn't hurt to go to a business school, if you intend to dive into the business world.</p>
<p>^ sorry. "A student doesn't have to attend a business school to be successful."</p>
<p>Just my opinions.</p>
<ul>
<li>location - Brown or Harvard</li>
<li>academics - Cornell?</li>
<li>social life - Penn</li>
<li>success rate...? - Harvard</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>location: Columbia, NYC but with a great campus too</li>
<li>academics (rigor): I'm tempted to say Columbia again because of the enormous CORE curriculum, but I've heard Cornell is hard especially with grade deflation</li>
<li>social life: U Penn, I think, has the better Animal House-esque party scene, but Columbia has a little of that and the NYC night clubs</li>
<li>success rate: Harvard probably, but Yale and Princeton are right up there</li>
</ul>
<p>can you tell I'm a little biased?</p>
<ul>
<li>location: definitely Harvard...Columbia is not in a great part of NYC and Dartmouth is for the people who can be okay living in the middle of nowhere</li>
<li>academics: well they obviously have their specialities but the most rigorous is probably Cornell</li>
<li>social life: Penn, Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth</li>
<li>success rate: ummm no clue what this means</li>
</ul>
<p>Overall, I'd go with Yale.</p>
<p>location - personal preference is rural/small town so Dartmouth and Cornell</p>
<p>academics - as said before, it depends on the major. overall, I think Cornell is most rigorous. I can't imagine a more demanding engineering program anywhere than Cornell.</p>
<p>social life - what's a social life? A devoted student will have little time for it. Depends on whether you like city life. If you do, then Harvard, Penn, Columbia.</p>
<p>success rate - the Ivies all provide good education and preparation. Success means different things to different people.</p>
<p>^ I wonder is thats sarcasm about the social life lol</p>
<p>^Yes, it was sarcasm. I think a lot of applicants have high hopes for their social life in college but soon discover the trade-off between social life and good grades. Everyone needs a balance, but most freshmen err on the side of too much social life. Majors that involve labs, like science and engineering, require more structure and leave less time for social life except an occasional Friday and Sat night or catching a few liesure minutes here and there. I think it is smarter to de-emphasize the social factor when selecting a college. Don't get your hopes up. It depends on the major and on the college.</p>
<p>Haha agreed, gets depressing when all the sociology/psych majors are out partying and your doing problem sets...</p>
<p>Location: Harvard
Academics: All the Ivies
Social Life: Penn for sure
Success rate: Depends on your major</p>
<p>Hahahahahahaha. I know countless magna cum laude top 15% type kids at Ivies who NEVER stayed in on a weekend night except during finals/ midterms. </p>
<p>Parents are so clueless.</p>
<p>I think its absolutely fine to choose a college on the social life/ envorinment. The academics are tops at all of these schools (we are talking Ivies!), but the social scenes vary considerably. I transferred for social reasons and it was the best decision I have ever made. I think not caring enough about the social life is the biggest mistake you can make. You only go to college once. I learned so much from my classmates outside of the classroom. A diligent student will do well anywhere, its silly to think you can't manage grades with a life. Sure some take it too far, but that is far from everyone.</p>
<p>As for my personal ability to attest to ivies social life: Attended Dartmouth and Columbia for a total of six years (3 Dart, 3 Columbia...two grad school, one first year), visited Brown five weekends (incl. 3 spring weekends), Harvard at least 4 weekends, Yale two weekends, Princeton (weekend), Penn ( spring fling), Cornell (weekend). </p>
<p>Location:
Harvard (Cambridge is full of life + boston + has a real campus)
Brown (East Providence is great and fun + close to things + real campus)</p>
<p>Academics:
Princeton: Complete access to top profs. The best.
Dartmouth: Hardly any TAs, Profs love teaching, tons of grants, study abroad, etc. A very strong prof in a smaller classroom seems with attention on undergrads seems to be a winning formula.
Cornell: Sciences are top notch, rigourous
Penn: Wharton is amazing for business</p>
<p>Social Life:
Dartmouth: Princeton w/o pretention. Everyone loves the place, it feels like mardi gras on the weekends, everyone goes to the parties, and there are 3-4 major parties plus tons of house parties/ etc on the weekends. Great size, you know many people but not everyone.</p>
<p>Penn: Bigger campus so its less inclusive and you know less people, but its crazy active on the weekends. Good for the people who want to skip this and head into Philly.</p>
<p>Success Rate:
Depends on so much. What your interested in, how you apply yourself, what environment suits you.</p>