BBA Ross or BA Economics ??

<p>The difference for me would be 1 year but i feel it’s worth it since i’m more interested in studying business i think for each person its different i like i would be able take the core courses and more business electives in the BBA program as opposed to only 20 business electives and only core you can really take is ACC the rest are watered down electives i prefer to take core courses.</p>

<p>Have you all taken 401? 402? Econometrics? Language requirements? It’s a lot of effort for something you just really don’t need. Those upper level econ classes are some of the harder classes at Michigan. And have you even looked into if you can really finish both in 5 semesters? Normally the BBA alone is 6 semesters but you can shorten it to 5 if you really need to by squeezing in business credits wherever you can. Idk if 5 semesters with a dual degree is even possible.</p>

<p>@Maizeandblue21 i am most likely going to get a minor in economics if i do ross next year since i will be taking 401 this year and two 300 level econ courses. if i don’t do Ross then i plan to do a business minor with Economics major i doubt i will do dual unless i have the time probably just a minor for me. My advisor also told me a dual wasn’t necessary so….</p>

<p>@Maizeandblue21 I’ve taken 401 and will take 402 along with 453 next semester. I was considering a BS in Econ if I were not to get into Ross but I still may take Econ 405 and 406 for the more quantitative stuff. </p>

<p>I already have so many Lsa credits and requirements finished like foreign language, etc. It’s attainable and it’s not like I could take 16 credits of business classes every semester either. Maybe I don’t need it but I want it. I’d rather challenge myself academically then hold back.</p>

<p>I’m curious how is the recruitment in LSA specifically Economics is it non existent ? would a smart student be able to be recruited by Ross recruiters ( JP Morgan, Goldman…etc.) or get in Ross events ?</p>

<p>^I mean, no, if you’re not in Ross you don’t get to go to ross recruiting events. And for the big banks they recruit specifically from ross just because the students there will already know some modeling and accounting that’s essential for jobs in finance. Econ majors can get good jobs it just takes a lot more networking effort and individual study since you have to go through the s**tty LSA career center.</p>

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<p>It might be smarter to pick a different dual major if it also wouldn’t take longer. If you’re good with quant stuff, wouldn’t math be a smarter choice, assuming you can also do a BBA+BS Math in 5 semesters?</p>

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<p>Is the LSA Career Center that bad ? also i could take accounting courses through Ross as a Non-Ross student would that help me? I planned on taking Acc 300</p>

<p>The LSA career center is not that bad, it is just as aggressive or as effective as the career centers at Ross or at the CoE. </p>

<p>~90% of Ross students are employed within three months of their graduation. Most of those work for sexy tech companies (Google, Cisco, Intel, Sun, Microsoft etc…), Fortune 500 companies, bulge bracket IBanks or private equity firms, a management consulting firm or one of the Big 4 (PwC, D&T, E&Y etc…). The average starting salary for Ross students is $65,000, not including signing bonuses and additional guaranteed compensation. </p>

<p>Placement figures for the CoE are similar. Again, ~90% placement rate into major companies within 3 months graduation, average basic starting salary in the $65,000. </p>

<p>Compared to that, LSA is obviously not going to compete favorably. That is to be expected mind you. Colleges of Arts and Sciences are traditionally designed to educate undergrads in classical, traditional disciplines with the hope that many of those will go on to earn graduate degrees in those discplines, or to medical or law school. Colleges of Arts and Sciences will typical have stronger career offices at universities with no undergraduate business programs and weak/non-existant engineering programs (like Brown, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Vanderbilt to name a few) than at schools with strong Business and/or Engineering programs (Cal, Cornell, MIT, Michigan, NYU and Penn). Even then, CAS recruitment activity will generally not match recruitment activity and placement rates of major undergraduate business and engineering programs with the exception of Harvard.</p>

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<p>I have considered the idea but I went to college with the intention of getting at least an Economics degree. It’s a subject I very much enjoy but I cannot say the same for math.</p>

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<p>Do they have any employment data for LSA students in career center for economics students ? I always thought economics was a very employable major and could place better then Ross also according to payscale economics undergrad degree is up there with engineering degrees as highest paid.</p>

<p>Im actually thinking of BBA too but i think the 3 years and 45 only transferrable credits made me rethink about it since i will have 55 credits if i do get in for winter 2013 :/. If not, a BA Econ is what i will do, and grad in like 2 more years</p>

<p>d4wnzz - I am in the same exact boat as you. I hope holding junior-standing will give us some preference in the eyes of Ross. But even with acceptance, it will be a tough decision to accept the offer or not.</p>

<p>@albo u are totally right. From an econ point of view, it boils down to opportunity cost. i think we might need an extra year, or perhaps tons of summer classes. Also, we will be applying in fall 2013, which basically leaves us only 2 years to complete, or graduate in 5 years. Which really suck. We can easily grad with a double deg econ and whatsoever in 4 or even less. Opportunity cost buddy. Economics is all about making decisions lol…</p>

<p>Yeah its all about opportunity cost i would still prefer to be in Ross and with your credits you may have 55 but you may still need complete some LSA college requirements such as ( language & R&E ) which may add to the length of schooling. I hope they give some preference to people applying for first time as transfers because that’s what it actually says on the Ross site a few people transfer to a UM college then transfer to Ross so unless your a frosh transfer that seems be in situation most of us are in transferring in as juniors i will keep everyone updated with what happens</p>

<p>FYI despite what they might tell you, Ross doesn’t really take transfers from other schools. Problem solved.</p>

<p>Not quite. We are not applying to Ross directly. We are applying to LSA for Winter '13 then applying to Ross.</p>

<p>Albo23 is correct where applying from the LSA school which is via regular admission, transfer admission from other schools is 1%</p>

<p>Anybody in LSA Economics heard of students with a good gpa 3.5+ getting a job in consulting or I-banking making close to six figure after bonuses and guaranteed compensation ?? Also did they have any Ross courses ? i would not be able take any Ross courses if i graduated in 2 years from LSA Do i need these courses to get in Finance/Banking or would i be okay without them ?</p>

<p>Its extremely rare for Michigan LSA Economics majors to get investment banking jobs. I would rank it below a non-target in this economy. You can definitely find some good “Business Analyst” type roles at a Fortune 500 company or even a Management Consulting job with Accenture if you do well in Michigan Economics.</p>