<p>Overall, I would say that it is harder to get into Berkeley than NU.</p>
<p>Hm, you know, that's funny. Why?</p>
<p>Because Northwestern doesn't give out merit aid! Imagine that.</p>
<p>Maybe they should.</p>
<p>uc_benz, I don't know the specifics, but this guy taught Chess at my daughter school and the chess organizer announced that the reason this kid did not go to UCB because NU gave them more money.</p>
<p>stop fighting over trivial thingssss</p>
<p>read "rape of the lock" by alexander pope, that should stop the fight: be more forgiving and tolerant to others....</p>
<p>lol ucb and nu are just good at different things.........no one said u'll be successful at either of the 2 schools.</p>
<p>my harvard interviewer said: getting into harvard only gets ur TOE into the door, u gotta move ur body yourself!!!!!! so it really depends on personal devotion.........</p>
<p>PEOPLE, i think we need get back 2 the topic at hand. I AM STUCK! without a future at this point. And i need constructive advise as to where i should go to college. CAL, UMich, Northwestern
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<p>i would just interject at this point that there is no real correlation between a school being good and it not having an undergraduate business program, some do and some do not, but it is defintetly not an easy program, which is most definetly not why they do not have them (look to schools like Upen or MIT, Columbia, Berkeley, USC ect.).</p>
<p>I'm not sure why some do and some do not, but a B.S. in business is a challenging degree, like most of the B.S. programs are.</p>
<p>Hey EndersGame2323. Between Cal-Berkeley or Northwestern, I would more than likely go with Berkeley. However, at both Northwestern and Cal-Berkeley, you will receive a great education.</p>
<p>Yes, there is a correlation to the TOP schools. A lot of colleges don't have undergraduate business programs, but that doesn't make them good. But the top schools such as Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Cornell, Brown, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, UChicago, Cal Tech, etc. don't have undergraduate business because they don't think it is necessary as an undergraduate major. A BBA is too limited in scope because it doesn't challenge a student in all areas, thus leading to severe atrophy of the brain. In all seriousness though, I'm not saying a BBA is bad, but it is one of the least challenging majors offered. </p>
<p>There's a reason why all of the football players are majoring in business! And it's not because they want to start a business of their own some day.</p>
<p>when did we start to talk about business school? lol i thought we were arguing over UCB and Nu for somebody who NEEDS advice NOW!!!</p>
<p>get back to topic!!!!!</p>
<p>mmmmmmmmm see, here's da thing about business, ross business school at U mich and Wharton@Upenn are actually pretty selective, there're tons of bright kids who dont get in these programs. At the same time, business at other schools can be for slackers. i dont know. </p>
<p>Business, is just a major for kids who want $ quickly........</p>
<p>welll, lets get back to UCB V. NU, which major are u looking for</p>
<p>"A BBA is too limited in scope because it doesn't challenge a student in all areas, thus leading to severe atrophy of the brain. In all seriousness though, I'm not saying a BBA is bad, but it is one of the least challenging majors offered. "</p>
<p>i'm sorry.......WHAT? thats a big bunch of nonsense. Firstly, a Business degree is most commonly a B.S.. Secondly, it still doesnt explain other top schools that DO have the program, including some ivys.....so them deeming it unecesary has nothing to do with lack of challenge or slack (at my schools there is no way a football player could get into the business program, unless they were indeed smart and could find a way to fit it into their scheduel, which is unlikely). As a matter of fact a business program overall does challenge many different areas of a person, anything else is usually why schools have arts and letters requirments.</p>
<p>this is kind of off topic albeit such a statement cannot be overlooked in any topic comparing two schools, because it's just not a very good one to make.</p>
<p>Enders, Cal, Michigan and Northwestern are all equally respected and recognized universities in corporate and academic circles. All three have indredible academic offerings. You really cannot go wrong. Just go for the school you feel most comfortable with. Did you have a chance to visit those three schools? They are sufficiently different from each other for it to be an easy decision.</p>
<p>UC_Benz, football players do not major in Business at schools like Penn (Wharton), Michigan, MIT and Cal.</p>
<p>Well of course not because those business schools require extraordinary academic performance. However, if you want to talk Ohio State, Miami, Oklahoma, possibly USC, Nebraska, Texas, etc. then I would be glad to.</p>
<p>Yes they do require extraordany performance, and the schools you assume dont only would isolate that to their busines program? i'm sure it may be less competitive in some places but the curriculum for the B.S. is still challenging anywhere especialy in some of the schools you for some reason chose to list.</p>
<p>USC is in the top 10 for undergraduate business programs, as is Texas (assuming you mean UT-Austin anyway). Even Ohio States business program is up there. Whatever you're using to base you assumptions on, stop using it.</p>
<p>My "assumptions?" Here are what my "assumptions" are based on:</p>
<p>Over 25% of the Ohio State football is doing business. And over 35% are undeclared. So that is by far the most popular major.</p>
<p>To further illustrate my point: At University of Texas-Austin, students in the 20th percentile still have greater than an A- average! Don't try to tell me that's a normal distribution curve.</p>
<p>And some of you are putting words into my mouth. I never once said that business is an easy major. I said it may be one of the easiest, but "easiest" does not imply easy. Music and art history are generally seen to be the easiest majors then business following that. I don't know what college some of you go to, but at the college I go to all of the people who don't do well with engineering/math/economics go into business.</p>
<p>More stuff to base my 'assumptions' off of: The average GPA for the undergraduate business at USC is 3.89! </p>
<p>Are you still not convinced that business is one of the easier majors?</p>
<p>Really Alexandre? I could've sworn I saw some article about football players being fed to Wharton at UPenn (LOTS of them too).</p>
<p>looks like the single neuron you share with your countrymen has stopped functioning. NU has an excellent reputation in asia(ever heard of kellogg? more asians applied to kellogg than wharton last year). and yes U.S's gonna dominate for a very very long time to come. How many U.S grads have you seen leaving to asia for grad studies? and if you really believe in role reversal between asia and US, wake up and give a good shi$ and save your grey cell.</p>
<p>^ No one here is talking about an exodus to Asia for school. If anything, Britain and Europe seem to be up and coming. </p>
<p>As for reputation of MBA schools in Asia, Samsung Global Strategy Group recruits at Columbia, Haas, Chicago, Harvard, Wharton, MIT, IMD, INSEAD, Kellogg, Michigan, and Stanfurd. </p>
<p>If my memory serves correct, they just added Kellogg this past year. NU/NW is getting more known in Asia because of Kellogg, but not because of NU undergrad or their other graduate programs. UChicago is still more famous globally than NU/NW.</p>