<p>I've been accepted at both berkeley and williams college in MA and I'm having a lot of troubling deciding. I'm from ca and I like the idea of experiencing a new place and I also think that williams is probably the better school, however, I love cal too.</p>
<p>any comments/ideas would be helpful</p>
<p>They are completely different schools…</p>
<p>One is a huge public school in Cali
The other is a small private liberal arts school</p>
<p>I’d say Williams if u dont have money issues</p>
<p>“experiencing a new place”, “I love cal too”
I don’t think William would fullfill. But you can try a year then transfer :)</p>
<p>News to you – Cal offers a LOT more than Williams. What Williams offers in terms of teaching is way better than Cal’s though. But Cal isn’t a teaching-focused school, it’s a research-focused school. I know someone who went to Williams and then transferred out, while loving the teaching, because he’d exhausted all he wanted to do there too early.</p>
<p>I would choose W. The undergraduate education quality there is much better and UCB is better for graduate education.</p>
<p>You didn’t say what you wanted to major in. For anything technical (science/math/engineering/social sciences) you definitely want to go to Cal. For the humanities, Williams may be a better choice depending on what’s important to you.</p>
<p>Yes, we need more details. Williams would be the better school for good teaching. Berkeley would be the better school if you want to get involved with research.</p>
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<p>This is so vague, I might as well call it false. If you define undergraduate education to strictly equal undergraduate teaching quality, then yes. If you include all the factors that an undergraduate may want to consider, it’s strictly ridiculous. I have no idea why someone would make a definition that throws out several factors. Generalizing leads to failure unless done carefully.</p>
<p>Well mathboy honestly (and i LOVE Cal) you would get more one on one attention at Williams and they do a STELLAR job in prepping their students for graduate school. Grad programs KNOW this too. I love Cal I really do, but you will have much closer proximity to professors and thus in my opinion be more likely to get a better quality of education and teaching because of the smaller numbers. And some folks turn down the HYPS of the world to go to Williams. That would be my choice.</p>
<p>Many who come to Cal turn down those colleges mentioned for several reasons. Some of the main reasons being low tuition, being regents scholar, and etc…</p>
<p>I am quite sure that there are many students who turn down those to come to Cal.
It would be A LOT more than williams since our undergrad size is way bigger.</p>
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<p>This is exactly where I have the problem. Nobody is denying the teaching there is much better. This does not imply better quality of education, as people I know who actually went to the school would say. A top notch small school is very good for intellectuals who want excellent teaching in a broad liberal arts sense, but fails to cater to those who have rather specialized interests, which frankly a lot of undergrads do. Meaning, if you just want to take classes in your major, and are a strong student, you may run out of things to do.</p>