Berkeley

<p>double pleh
irish car bomb
1/2 oz irish whiskey
1/2 oz irish cream
1/2 pt Guiness</p>

<p>wow!</p>

<p>and thanks EK</p>

<p>You can definitely attend Berkeley living near a BART stop, but it is nicer in some ways to live closer to campus, just makes life easier. The city of El Cerrito has a very different vibe from Berkeley as well, if that matters to you. But lots of local kids live at home and commute from various places so, it can work. Depends on what you want your college experience to be.</p>

<p>Thanx mstee! I wondered about that! Knowing D she'll want to be in the thick of things! She was just offered this place to stay if she were to be accepted to Berkeley...</p>

<p>Oooo, ick. There are some things you don't want to be so close to being right about. (Irish car bomb recipe, that is.)</p>

<p>Besides the recipe, I think there is some proper order of consumption. Although I was actually talking to my friend on the other side of the room and not participating, I think one would drop the shot in the guiness and then drink, perhaps chug, just in case anyone was interested.</p>

<p>OMG! Okay, too much info... i hope!</p>

<p>"lovetocamp---I can attest to the same stories and worse coming out of Cal. As a California taxpayer, it makes me sick. We told our four kids---no apps to Cal. Period. And yes, I read I am Charlotte Simmons, and similar stuff happens at private colleges. But we as parents do not need to throw our children to the wolves. If I were this kids' parents, I'd have him transfer out asap. And yes it is Berkeley's fault."</p>

<p>I happen to be a student at Cal and am very disturbed as to how naive some parents must be. First and foremost, from what I have heard from my friends and seen with my own eyes- private school kids are the ones who are crawling in drugs and other hedonistic behavior of that sorts. There are even university sponsored parties with alcohol that was bought with university money. Furthermore, it is the private universities that have a more relaxed policy when it comes to the dorms. I know plenty of close personal friends who admit to smoking and drinking with their dorm monitors. I don't think it's fair to blame Cal for the isolated incident that is being generalized as the "norm" at "public universities."</p>

<p>But this brings up a good point, one that I think parents will benefit from reading. Part of the dorm experience is the fact that you will be thrown into the presence of various people and influences that you do not like or agree with. How you deal with these factors is up to you. You're not going to be in your tiny little isolated bubble all your life, and the sooner your son or daughter starts to realize that, and prepare for it, the better. I'm not advocating people start sending their kids into potentially compromising environments, but there will come a time in "John's" life when a co-worker, neighbor, or spouse engages in behavior that he doesn't agree with. So instead of writing a teary eyed letter to his parents, John has to figure out a way to deal with his problem. Whether he chooses to confront his roommates, seek outside counsel, or move is a decision he has to make- if for no other reason than to mature and come to grips with life.</p>

<p>I personally have not enjoyed all my encounters living in the dorms at Berkeley, and for various reasons will choose to live off campus next year- but I am very happy I had that experience. There were a lot of people I did not like that I had to learn to deal with, and a lot of behavior I did not approve of that I had to learn to adjust to.</p>

<p>So in conclusion- no, it is not in any way "Cal's fault." The University of California upholds a very high standard for both academic and social excellence, and does its best to prevent behavior not consistent with it's policies. </p>

<p>Have an open mind and the spirit to succeed- two qualities which Cal does a great job of instilling in it's students. I am proud to say that I feel "Berkeley-fied" because my experiences at Cal have been so profound and dear to me. I recommend everyone to look at both sides of this issue, and employ some common sense. </p>

<p>And if all else fails, come see for yourself! :)</p>

<p>The thing is, Slic, today's parents are the "soccer Mom" and "Little League Dad" generation. Leaving problems up to our kids to solve on their own is just foreign to some.</p>

<p>I still believe the OP has taken this opportunity to bash Berkeley because if he truly wanted advice on how to guide this student about his rights, the policies, how to deal with the situation, etc....he'd ask for "what to do" and then some good suggestions were made here....he has not come back to explain what avenues were pursued, nor which ones he may advise this good friend's son to look into now. I see this as a complaint....not as someone seeking help....and the way it is tied to the name of the school, brings me to now question the motivations of the poster. I don't see this as being about this particular school. It is a tough situation that must be dealt with at any college. It is ONLY about Berkeley if we were informed of every step that was taken with various staff who enforce either the housing policies and/or the drug/alcohol policies at this university and how it was handled. From my research of these policies, procedures are in place at this college for such offenses.</p>