<p>Wait...both are bad because both are deceptive. In that case, it's a prisoner's dilemma.</p>
<p>I don't know what is going on, but anyway I am against primitivefuture. His statements were, are and will be ridiculous!</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Reagan....he didn't destroy the U.S.S.R., he just helped it along....overspending on weaponry and construction of nuclear missiles was what destroyed the U.S.S.R...and then Gorbachev's perestroika...i.e. don't try to dissemble certain parts of something very fragile, because chances are, it's going to fall apart.<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>Yeah, but, certainly, strong foreign policy of Reagan accelerated and multiplied all those negative events in the USSR</p>
<p>So primitive what are you trying to say? Making fun of alcoholics is not a very good idea....my neighbor is an alcoholic and he'd find your statement pretty offensive because he hasnt taken a drink in 2 years (or sumthing like that)</p>
<p>first of all, when did i ever "lie?" Show me some quotes, if you can. You are really CONFUSED!! I am just saying that one of the reasons Bush is a bad example as a leader because he is alcoholic. And if you didnt know, Bush still drinks like crazy! You need a reality check. From most of your posts here, it seems as if you dont know what you are talking about.</p>
<p>"I don't know what is going on, but anyway I am against primitivefuture."</p>
<p>Dude, you have a reputaion of saying crazy stuff. I would LOVE to pull out some of your most disturbing quotes!! LOL . If anyone needs a good laugh, let me know.</p>
<p>"lots of democrats on this thread-- grad 06"</p>
<p>According to PR's AP Govt. book, educated people tend to be more liberal. Of course there are many well educated conservatives, but most voters for Bush in the 2004 election were not educated people, according to the LA Times.</p>
<p>No this is not true.....you are lying right there...what it is is that most elite schools hold liberals such as Harvard and so on....BUT there are more conservatives that hold any kind of degree overall this is due to most inner city ppl who want welfare voting democrat.</p>
<p>No, not true. There is a strong positive correlation between higher education and liberal voting behavior.</p>
<p>Can somebody give a link just to see whos right? I know we can prove this one</p>
<p>"No this is not true.....you are lying right there...what it is is that most elite schools hold liberals such as Harvard and so on....BUT there are more conservatives that hold any kind of degree overall this is due to most inner city ppl who want welfare voting democrat."</p>
<p>NO HE"S NOT YOU IDIOT
thats why bush ran as a common everyman, to avoid antagonizing the hick rednecks that make up the core of his party. People thought they were voting for someone like their neighbor when in reality they voted for one of the most rich and priveleged scions of one of america's aristocratic families</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Dude, you have a reputaion of saying crazy stuff. I would LOVE to pull out some of your most disturbing quotes!! LOL . If anyone needs a good laugh, let me know.<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>I don't care about my reputation on this stupid forum!</p>
<p>Actually, according to a recent study, the devide is not so much based on level of education but rather on quality of education.</p>
<p>Of people with a Bachelor degrees as their highest level of education, 41% are registered Democrats and 44% are registered Republicans. Of people with graduate level degrees, 50% are registered democrats and 35% are registered republicans</p>
<p>However, over 50% of alums from schools like the Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Michigan, Chicago, Cal and JHU, as well as alums from most top LACs are registered Democrats.</p>
<p>"Can somebody give a link just to see whos right? I know we can prove this one"</p>
<p>1.) Check PR's AP American Government Book (its restates my point)
2.) Check LA Times (about the 2004 election)</p>
<p>"BUT there are more conservatives that hold any kind of degree overall this is due to most inner city ppl who want welfare voting democrat."</p>
<p>Can anyone give me a source to ensure the validity of this statement? I ma provided my source my above post.</p>
<p>The nature of Academia inherently attracts liberals. For the most part, it is a system supported by the government, so they obviously favor more government intervention in society as liberals tend to do. However, a lot of Republicans go into the private sector because the Republican platform is based on free enterprise (not just business but everyday life). So to say that liberals somehow make a better choice because they are "smarter" is very ignorant. What is the golden standard that we are comparing two canidates to? What makes one canidate more "right" than the other? Our voting system is set-up the way it is because it takes into the account the opinions of the voters regardless of whether they are "smart" or not (you DON'T have to have a good education to be an educated voter).</p>
<p>"DON'T have to have a good education to be an educated voter"</p>
<p>How can you be an "educated voter" if you dont have good education in the first place?</p>
<p>"(you DON'T have to have a good education to be an educated voter)."</p>
<p>thats right, heck you dont even need to be anything more than a frunk frat boy to get into yale as long as your daddy is well connected</p>
<p>Bush depends on the votes of the uncritical and unexamining voter when he blurs the lines between osama and saddam</p>
<p>Here is one site with one set of data: <a href="http://www.heartheissues.com/e2004-6-intelligenceiq.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.heartheissues.com/e2004-6-intelligenceiq.html</a></p>
<p>Here's another set of data: <a href="http://www.zombietime.com/iq_of_2004_voters_by_state/%5B/url%5D">http://www.zombietime.com/iq_of_2004_voters_by_state/</a></p>
<p>Although IQ or intelligence may be a moot point. In the same section, there is an area outlining the amount of residents with college degrees (more than halfway down the page): <a href="http://www.heartheissues.com/poligeography.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.heartheissues.com/poligeography.html</a></p>
<p>I personally believe that GWB is a bad president but not because he is Republican (but that doesn't help him b/c I dont believe in many of the Republicans platforms) b/c I don't just vote based on party lines.</p>
<p>I have a real question here: How many people's point-of-view differs from their parents? There relatives? Just wondering.</p>
<p>My family is a mix, my Mom is a democrat, and my Dad a republican... I'm republican. So no matter what happenes I'm going to have to be on a side of one of my parents.</p>
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<p>Just because you know that 2+2=4 doesn't mean you know what's best for our country. On the flip side, just because you don't know what 2+2 is doesn't mean you don't know that Canidate A has a better healthcare plan than Canidate B. Having an education and being an educated voter are two different things.</p>
<p>On the flip side, just because you don't know what 2+2 is doesn't mean you don't know that Canidate A has a better healthcare plan than Canidate B.</p>
<p>I wasnt taking about "academic" education, I was talking about education dealing with the campaigns and what candidates have to offer as leaders. However, there seems to be a correlation between education level and party affiliation. </p>
<p>And I agree with sempitern555 that Bush does depend largely on fickle-minded Americans for his support. No wonder why he's so food at shifting issues!! (ex. WMDs in Iraq to liberating Iraqis, but I dont want to have a long discussion about it over again).</p>