Hi! I plan on moving back to California from Florida to do the CC transfer into UC Irvine. I want to make sure that the transfer program in the community college is good.
So, which community college has the best transfer program into UC Irvine? I will major in the Public Health program there, so hopefully there is a college that specializes in that as well?
Thanks!
OCC or IVC with Honors Certification.
^Yep, generally the local CCs act as ‘feeder’ schools to the local UC
For UCLA and even Berkeley SMC is good
For others who are wondering for their own situations, the transfer (and freshman) algorithm has a weighting factor based on proximity. Also, the local CC’s develop relationships and special programs (outside of TAG) with nearby UC’s.
^ @ItsJustSchool what? Where did you here that they weight if the person is local.
The only time I’ve heard that is for CSU freshman admissions. Never in transfers.
I agree with you though, that some CCs have programs with close UCs
@luckie1367, I think it was from the guidance counselor for freshman admission, and the Transfer center at the CC for the CC transfer. In addition, there are programs such as the 'University Link" (see hyperlink) and the TAP programs, which are selective, but statewide, which are outside of TAG.
http://www.miracosta.edu/studentservices/transfercenter/transferinformation.html
And services that are local such as:
http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/Adm_tr/ADM_CCO/Cctp.htm
All participating CCs are in the LA basin.
Also, CC students can often take one course per host-school term at a CSU or UC. For practical purposes, it would make sense to be close to the target UC.
I had heard that UC’s also (as well as CSU’s) have weighting by zip code. I even heard which UC is our ‘local’ UC (not one of the top 2).
The transfer weighting may or may not be true (freshman may or may not be true). Both were told to me verbally.
You are correct on locality being a factor for admission for CSUs.
Thank you for providing the links to the TAP and ULink programs.
I think what I was confused about was that you meant if you didn’t participate in any of those programs, you’d still get a bump by simply living near a specific UC. I’ve never heard of that as an admissions factor, and I can’t find it in any of the common data sets…
SMC is a feeder school for UCLA.
But ‘zip code’ is not a admissions consideration.
I could be that they are feeder schools since people will attend the school closest to them for financial purposes.
@luckie1367
They can use zip code as a feeler to anticipate the yield.
About 2 years ago I hear Berkeley-Haas only accepted like 5 students from SoCal so I do believe proximity plays a factor in UC admissions.
Holistic is a large umbrella.
What? I’ve never heard that.
It doesn’t make any sense. What about people who moved closer to a CC but would move again to go to a UC?
@luckie1367
should have moved to a feeder school.
welcome to the real world -Morpheus
@luckie1367, yes, I understand from a HS Guidance Counselor that there is a zip-code weighting for Freshman admission to a UC (as well as to CSU). The GC even named the UC for our zip code.
I understand from a CC Transfer Center staffer that is also true for transfer admissions (even without participating in a formal program).
Both of these were told to me verbally, and I could have “heard what I wanted to hear.” I have no backup documentation.
Thanks @ItsJustSchool. I’m sorry that I’ve called you out, that was not my intention. I just don’t want people to panic that their chances are affected by where they live.
If you find documentation, that would be great.
I don’t believe a competitive student is disbarred from attendance based on zip code.
Re SMC, you have to see the stats. How many students are applying from SMC? Without that information, one cannot ascertain their rate of transfer. Obviously it’s high, but transfer figures alone don’t give the full picture.
Also, starting this year the UCs are making a concerted effort to target the lower-transferring CCCs, so I suspect there may be a dip in the top feeder CCCs. While there are some specific programs geared to gaining you admission, the bigger issue, as outlined in the UC Task Force Report last year, was the lack of advisor quality at the lower-performing CCCs, and lack of articulated courses. I see people get into the UCs from all over - southern CA residents get in to northern CA UCs and vice versa. Another thing to keep in mind when making a decision, is the Waitlist for courses at SMC, which I hear is crazy.
I would say the key is to go to one of the top 100. I would never move to specifically go to a CCC, unless maybe it was a program such as SB City College, if my heart was set on UCSB. But even then if you do well, and make sure you do the required courses, it’s not really necessary.
And perhaps @itsjustschool, the info from that guidance counselor could be wrong. If we all had a dime for each wrong thing counselors have said… A counselor recently told some kid he was guaranteed entry to a UC based on that CCC being a feeder and the kid did not get in. It was posted up here.
To have a weighted system based on zip code or whatever, kind of goes against UC policy, I would think, and could leave them open to a lawsuit - unless, it’s a specifically outlined program. That’s my opinion, anyway.
@lindyk8
I don’t think anyone is saying disbarred but disadvantaged for sure .
Berkeley freshman acceptance rate is 17%, transfer is 23%. The competition has really gotten tough in the last few years. By the end of the decade it will probably be statistically the same.
I don’t see much coming out of “targeting” underachieving CCs. The reason I say this is because the big push from large CCs such as SMC and OCC is to attract international students. International are and will continue increasing the difficulty of transfer admission in the years to come. Because of this extra emphasis is placed on ECs. Again large CCs such as SMC and OCC have a huge advantage. They have plenty of ECs from foreign language clubs to functioning student government and proper sports. I don’t see much hope for underachieving CCs.
Sharon, how long have you been OOS? It will affect how much you pay at the CC’s.
Very good points @bomerr about international. As I know you know, Haas MBA is hugely international, with very active solicitation. As a matter of fact, De Anza, a top CCC feeder, actively solicits international on its web page. In fact, that and science, are it’s two marketing ploys.
So, here’s another thing I’d like to know: De Anza and SMC, what are the international numbers within those transfer stats?
@lindyk8
From my experience, on average the intl are more focused and dedicated to transferring than domestic citizens; mostly because there are a lot of domestic citizens who are high school burn-outs at CC.Although I have met a few intl that are using college as their Visa to party in America. To answer the question I think the number of intl transfer is really high. Last year the only person who got into Haas BBA from my CC was an intl student.