<p>“Many… MANY people here despise the game.”</p>
<p>That might be true but seriously, most applicants from your region will have cricket on their activity lists. And that might make you look average.
That said, your best bet is Cornell COE ED (a very difficult program to gain admission to btw, so your essays need to be top-notch) if you can raise your SAT score to 2100+.</p>
<p>With that SAT and as an international, I honestly don’t think you’re going to get into any of these schools. Either raise your test scores or set your standards a bit lower. If you don’t get up to 2150+, you might as well forget about these schools. :-/</p>
<p>Bernard3.
Don’t you find the situation a little paradoxical?
Low score requirement = Hard, High score requirement = Easier. </p>
<p>idkididk
Yes. </p>
<p>PrincetonDreams,
I also play softball. Does that count? <em>Sheepish grin</em>
Haha. Agreed. I am not a sporty guy. But yeah I am really into olympiads, quizzes, debates, declamations and whole lot of other stuff. I didn’t write all of it here on this post… Cricket is a pretty average thing I guess. </p>
<p>Cornell COE ED is hard, but easier than the rest I believe. I know that 2100+ in now a precondition for me. I’m getting there!
Thank you so much!</p>
<p>Keasbey Nights
Thank you for being upfront and not sugar coating your words. </p>
<p>Also, I’d like to ask how valuable are International Olympaids (Phy), the privatized ones. I have the option to take part in one, its only its 3rd year (new). Is it worth the effort. And what are you views on MUNs. Do they really matter?</p>
<p>You guys need to get your facts straight, Berkeley has 12.5 percent from OOS (and rising), that’s not how many they accept. As this recent article says, they accept 50% of international applicants:</p>
<p>[04.14.2010</a> - More than 12,900 offered admission after competitive application period](<a href=“http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2010/04/14_admissions.shtml]04.14.2010”>More than 12,900 offered admission after competitive application period | Berkeley)</p>
<p>Cornell is way harder to get into. The ED numbers look so high because that’s when most of the athletes and legacies are admitted.</p>
<p>Berkeley and the UCs are no longer harder for OOS/international applicants. That want more of them because they pay so much and CA needs the money. They need to accept many as the yield for OOS students is half the yield for residents.</p>
<p>Now I am just confused.
You guys were supposed to help me!
Can we please reach consensus on this?
Thanks,
A confused and nervous me.</p>
<p>If you need aid, Cornell (it’s slightly better than Berkeley in that regard, especially with the new Tata Scholarship). If aid isn’t a problem, then Berkeley would be the easier one to get accepted to. </p>
<p>P.S: COE is one of the tougher schools to get into. The admit rate is higher than the other schools/departments because the applicant pool is largely self-selected for COE.</p>
<p>I’ll be applying for aid. So Cornell it is. Thanks!</p>
<p>From my knowledge, UC system does not have ED, but the application is due by the end of november, which is a month earlier then most colleges. If you are OOS, it is near impossible, and around the difficulty of getting into a ivy league school.</p>
<p>I would say match to cornell. If your SAT reaches a 2200, your chances at cornell ED are pretty solid.
Others are high reaches.</p>
<p>Why do you think Cornell is easier than Berkeley or Stanford?
As Redroses said,
"You guys need to get your facts straight, Berkeley has 12.5 percent from OOS (and rising), that’s not how many they accept. As this recent article says, they accept 50% of international applicants:</p>
<p>04.14.2010 - More than 12,900 offered admission after competitive application period
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<p>Berkeley is by far the easier to get into but they won’t give the OP aid. It’s very hard for an international to get aid at Cornell too, however. Internationals usually have to be at the very top of a school’s pool to get money from schools outside of the richer ivies.</p>
<p>Redroses
But Berkeley can reject you if you ask for aid right? Or will it accept you and offer no aid?
Because I know Cornell is need-blind, and won’t reject if you need aid.</p>
<p>Good luck!! It’ll work out one way or another!!</p>
<p>What is your GPA on a 4.0 scale? It seems a little low(89 cumulative)…</p>
<p>CornellHopeful
My school doesn’t offer GPA. I am from India, we have CBSE here. Schools in the US are aware of the system. My class rank is in the top 5%, and that’s what matters. School curriculum is rigorous here, and it’s fairly impossible to get a 80+ in English. So you can draw a picture.</p>
<p>Berkeley isn’t even worth applying to if you need aid. It costs over $50k/yr and the most you could get if you were a very top applicant would be a few thousand dollars.</p>
<p>I’d also say slim chance of getting much from Cornell. Cornell is not need blind to internationals and the competition to get any aid for Indian students is brutal.</p>
<p>If you need significant aid you need to add several schools that rank much lower, and even then, I’d suggest a very good backup in India because money here is very limited right now and you can’t count on getting enough from any school.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, since you are an international from India (I am also Indian, but live in US), there are other Indians with much stronger scores, so it will be very difficult to get in Cornell even if you are applying ED. I would recommend getting scores 2250+.</p>
<p>I agree with what Red Roses said, also, I am keeping in mind the rigor and intensity of the curriculum in Indian schools.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Redroses.
Cornell is need-blind to internationals, this year. I checked their form. Also, it seems that you don’t know, but there is a Tata Scholarship for Indian students At Cornell initated last year. It’s $50M fund, just for Indians who get admission.</p>
<p>Wong
2250, I can’t say. But 2200 is definitely possible. With a score like that, what are my chances?
[ i’d also like to update my profile. Stuff I did in the last two months. I won the best delegate at an MUN last month. Joined the National Cadets Corps, and National Service Scheme (Comm. Service). I won 2 National debates, and took part in an International Math Olympiad, result of which is not out ]
I am doing everything to build my profile, all thanks to you guys here who keep on squelching any bit of hope that may arise. No seriously, thanks!</p>
<p>There will be about 6 Tata scholarships per class, spread among several schools at Cornell. So maybe 2 per year in engineering at the most. Cornell will have thousands of candidates for each seat…</p>
<p>I had not heard that Cornell became need blind for internationnals. Surprising at a time when other schools are becomming need aware. Are they also promising to meet need?</p>
<p>You never know. All you can do is put in your best possible application and understand that India sends an overwhelming number of candidates to top US schools. The bar is way higher than it is for Americans, and it’s darn high for them. If you really want to come to school here, you can’t just apply to the big names.</p>
<p>6 Tata Scholarships per class? Could you validate that for me please? (I do know that the scholarship is provided to students who take up “Hard” sciences. So COE is definitely on the priority list. How many Indian students (of Indian nationality) do you think get into Cornell every year in undergraduate admissions?)
No, they do not promise to meed full demonstrated need. </p>
<p>Agreed. The competition is crazy, especially among the internationals. And solely relying on the big names is foolishness. Ergo, I will be applying to some safeties and targets(Ohio State, Texas A&M, Purdue…)</p>
<p>From this discussion I can take that Berkeley is no-no for me, given they do not give aid at all. My top-end reaches are becoming clearer. Cornell, Georgia Tech and UIUC.
( I would’ve said Stanford, but for that I need to work really hard on my SATs. In fact for all of these colleges. A score in the ballpark of 2200 is crucial. From what I have learnt, SAT score is sort of a pre-screening. Once you cross 2200, you SAT is not the factor why you will be rejected. Myth or Fact?)</p>
<p>Just go to the Cornell web site. There will be a total of 25 Tata Scholars at any one time. The way schools handle this is to divide them among the classes. The site also tells the schools that will be included and it’s not just hard sciences. Hard to believe Cornell will have many more than 6 kids from India per undergrad class.</p>
<p>It is total myth that anything above 2200 is viewed the same. Look at the 75th percentile SAT scores for any top school to see that a large percentage of the class has 770-790 per section. 2200 is just median for mid level ivies, and half the class has a genuine hook (athlete, URM, legacy, staff kid, rich/famous).</p>