<p>^^^^Yeah and Temple played well at Penn State last week. When was the last time your school won anything? Michigan is improving greatly in bb too. I seem to recall TUOS having it’s own bb scandal even more recently than ours. Hardly anything to brag about.</p>
<p>“I call it the best school in this state. Also known as a Public Ivy, a Top Public, and, according to Kiplinger, the #1 best value in the nation.”
The top publics like Michigan, UNC and UVA play second fiddle to the elite private schools in this country like Harvard, Stanford, Duke and UPenn.</p>
<p>“How does it feel to constantly be on the losing end of the rivalry? What were you doing last spring when we were celebrating another NCAA basketball national championship? Hosting a viewing party for the latest edition of USNWR?”
Constantly on the losing end…what! I hope you realize that Duke has owned UNC in the modern era of college basketball which started in 1985 when the tournament was organized as we know it today.</p>
<p>Even in this decade, Duke has more wins than any other college basketball team. UNC was terrible for like half the decade.</p>
<p>The decline of UNC against Duke begins next year when Harrison Barnes and Kyrie Irving will make all the Tarholes cry for four years straight.</p>
<p>I look forward to seeing Larry Drew the Magnificent running the point this year. Should be hysterical…</p>
<p>Michigan/Ohio State is the only rivalry that stems from an ACTUAL WAR: [Toledo</a> War: battle between Michigan and Ohio](<a href=“http://www.essortment.com/all/toledowar_rzxq.htm]Toledo”>http://www.essortment.com/all/toledowar_rzxq.htm)</p>
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<p>Most people would beg to differ. True, these schools aren’t in the Ivy League (neither is Duke), but they are still incredible schools. </p>
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<p>Nice try. UNC has owned Duke both all-time and most recently. Four straight wins over Duke at Cameron…err Hansbrough…Indoor Stadium? 5 national titles? And how many final fours again?</p>
<p>And don’t even get my started about football. </p>
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<p>Barnes will end up coming to UNC. Michael Jordan will make sure of that.</p>
<p>So, once again, how does it feel to constantly be on the losing end of the rivalry? All-time wins, series, national titles, final four appearances…no matter what stat you look at, Dook always come up second to UNC.</p>
<p>Cuse0507, I doubt they’re ready for the reign UNC is about to make happen. ‘Puke’ University can crawl under a rock</p>
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<p>We did play pretty well, actually. We beat the spread. When was the last time we won what? A game? What’s with the potshots at Temple? We have nothing to do with Michigan. Thanks for sidestepping.</p>
<p>Dionte, Michigan has made it to 4 Frozen Fours in the last 8 years. I admit that Michigan chocked in 2008 when they lost to Notre Dame, but generallyt, we have played to our potential. You can’t win them all.</p>
<p>You are fools! It’s all about the Paul Bunyan Ax at the Wisconsin-Minnesota game! </p>
<p>The oldest rivalry in Div 1A.</p>
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<p>It depends how you define “most recently.” Anybody can convey what they want by just cutting it off at a time that’s convenient to make their point. You responded to a post that since 1985 (which is when the NCAA tournament field expanded to 64 teams). Since then, Duke leads 30-29. So, UNC hasn’t owned Duke since then. And Duke hasn’t owned UNC. It’s been incredibly close. In the last decade, Duke leads 17-9. In the past ten games, UNC leads 7-3. So, the cutoff determined who has had more success. In the end, they’re two of the top five programs of all time (UCLA, UK, and IU also being top 5 programs, although some might swap KU in for IU based on recent years; those top 6 dominate all others) and have one of the greatest rivalries in sports. And they’re only 8 miles apart.</p>
<p>The intensity and animosity of UNC-Duke is greater than that of Michigan-Ohio St. I’ve been exposed to both. The closeness of the universities, public vs. private, etc. all contribute to this. Michigan and Ohio St are the flagship universities of their respective and different states. It’s not like Duke/UNC where Duke fans are the huge minority in a state of UNC fans and thus the rivalry is constant. Since you’re always around the opposition. That said, a Michigan-Ohio St game is truly something to witness. But it still doesn’t beat Duke-UNC in Cameron.</p>
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<p>Exactly-which is why it makes sense to look at the all-time head-to-head, which UNC leads 130-97. I can see why you would want to pick 1985, but the reality is UNC and Duke haven’t met in the postseason since 1971, so it is unlikely that the NCAA tournament field expansion had much to do with the head-to-head success of either team.</p>
<p>I agree with you that the rivalry tends to be cyclical, though, and as of the past few years UNC has been dominant. </p>
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<p>Agree 100%. Nothing can beat the 8-mile rivalry.</p>
<p>I don’t think Duke and UNC is more intense than Michigan and OSU.</p>
<p>If you’ve been to the horseshoe on the Saturday before Thanksgiving, you would not be questioning the intensity or the animosity of the Michigan-tOSU rivalry. Few Michigan fans make the trip down to Columbus more than once.</p>
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<p>I’m aware of that, but recently, Michigan has been more talented than basically every team in the nation, and just collapsed.</p>
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<p>How about 6 Division I schools within 20 minutes of each other?</p>
<p>Even as a Bruin with a finely honed hate for USC, I have to rank the Michingan/Ohio rivalry higher. My grandfather played for Ohio in '05 and two uncles who played in the '30s. When(as a Michigan resident) I submit an application to Mich. , all HELL broke out in the family ranks. I thought better of it and ended up at UCLA.</p>
<p>College football>>>college basketball. Always has been, always will be. The pageantry and tradition of college football is greater than anything else in any other sport in this country. The sport has been around for over 140 years!</p>
<p>Michigan and Ohio State in terms of emotion. I’m pretty sure those 2 schools would wage war on each other if allowed.</p>
<p>Army/Navy is a good one. Really old too. Harvard/Yale is pretty old too but the teams are so crappy that no one cares.</p>
<p>“Even as a Bruin with a finely honed hate for USC, I have to rank the Michingan/Ohio rivalry higher. My grandfather played for Ohio in '05 and two uncles who played in the '30s. When(as a Michigan resident) I submit an application to Mich. , all HELL broke out in the family ranks. I thought better of it and ended up at UCLA.”</p>
<p>Smart move. Anywhere but TUOS!</p>
<p>“Army/Navy is a good one. Really old too. Harvard/Yale is pretty old too but the teams are so crappy that no one cares”</p>
<p>I recommend watching the movie ‘Harvard beats Yale 29-29!’ people care.</p>
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<p>Neat stat, but how many NCAA Final Fours and national championships do these schools have between them? It is the proximity as well as the prestige that makes the UNC-Duke rivalry one of, if not the, nation’s best collegiate rivalry.</p>
<p>^^Except it’s in basketball. Football rivalries are ancient and there are too many chances for top rivalry teams to play each other over the course of a year in basketball. To me that’s the difference. The Michigan-OSU game wouldn’t be as significant if it were watered down 2-3 times in a season. Also, so few games are played in college football, that each one is of paramount importance. With bb you can lose many games, and still be in a tournament to win the NC at the end. College football is just much more intense and scrutinized than college bb week in and week out, hence the greater pressure and anxiety of a single rivalry game.</p>