<p>I believe Cal Poly SLO is the only CSU that attaches ECs to their app, though it is only taken from 4 questions (ECs and work experience).</p>
<p>It's still unclear how much it actually counts for determining admission.</p>
<p>Other than that, they will have no knowledge of any ECs performed, unless you apply for their scholarships.</p>
<p>I guess in order of reputation it would go:</p>
<p>Cal Poly SLO
San Diego State
Long Beach State</p>
<p>Yeah. I know for CP SLO that EC's are definitely asked about, but SAT II's are not. FYI</p>
<p>Thats too bad to hear!</p>
<p>do you meet with your admissions counselor? Maybe they ask you about them there?</p>
<p>On your application there are a series of questions about EC's. One of which was how many hours you spend per week on EC's(The only question I can remember from that section). That's for CP SLO, though, as I didn't apply to any other CSU's.</p>
<p>Besides CalPol SLO, no, there isn't room for ECs. And you don't meet with a admission officer or anything. CSUs are competely number driven. Some ask for mid-year transcripts, but for the most part, it's you GPA and SAT Is.</p>
<p>One of the ways to get a feel for how competitive each CSU campus is,
is to look at the undergraduate admissions Application Filing Status for Fall 2005 on the <a href="http://www.calstate.edu%5B/url%5D">www.calstate.edu</a> website or possibly at <a href="http://www.csumentor.edu/filing_status/Default.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.csumentor.edu/filing_status/Default.asp</a> ...</p>
<p>Some campuses are already closed for undergraduate admissions while others may be open for only certain majors, only for local residents, etc.</p>
<p>There are probably statistics on exactly how many applications are received and accepted for each campus somewhere on the website.</p>
<p>There are about 23 CSU campuses. I have lived in CA all my life and have never heard of Cal Maritime or CSU Channel Islands.</p>
<p>With the exception of Cal Poly SLO, the CSUs seem to be considered a safety for most CA hs students. "If I can't get into a school anywhere else, I'll go to a CSU." I have never really heard of a CSU being anyone's first choice, unless their grades and test scores are too low to get into any other college. </p>
<p>I know that SJSU is a meat rack for students in the bay area who can't get into a "real" school. I'm not trying to say that SJSU doesn't serve a useful purpose or isn't an "ok" school. It just seems to serve the masses of local students who either don't have the grades or test scores to go to a better school, can't afford to attend a better school, or are working fulltime and are trying to go to school as well. I know a lot of SJSU students who have been going there for 5+ years, because they work fulltime, live at home, etc.</p>
<p>There are other things I could say about SJSU, but better hold my tongue.</p>
<p>I never think of CSUs being much of an appeal to out-of-state students,
except for maybe athletes on scholarship.</p>
<p>I consider CSUs (at least SJSU, SFSU, SDSU, etc.) as the McDonalds and Burger King of college education, serving "fast food education" to the masses for a reasonable price. Am I wrong? I am not trying to offend CSU students or faculty...really I'm not!</p>
<p>gsp<em>silicon</em>valley may not have been trying to offend, but I found his post so offensive it dragged this San Jose State graduate out of lurking status. People go to CSU's for a variety of reasons, and those reasons include choice. I and many of my classmates were not from the Bay Area nor were we unwelcome elsewhere. We had our reasons for choosing San Jose State. Mine was the journalism program. I felt I got an excellent education and in just my small circle of friends alone, we went on to Harvard Business and Law schools, Stanford medical school, Berkley (architecture and engineering) and a host of other "name" graduate schools. The CSUs suffer from the economic woes of being state funded (or more accurately, underfunded) and being the lesser of the two public higher education systems, but fortunately provide a good education at a great price. Every school has its good and bad points. It is up to the individual student to take advantage of what any school has to offer. Should my own children choose to go to a CSU, I will support that choice and wish them as much happiness and success and I have enjoyed and still attribute to my having gone to San Jose State.</p>
<p>gsp<em>silicon</em>valley: mcdonalds and burger king of college education??? ....please</p>
<p>the CSU's really provide a different education and purpose than many universities. That is why the UC system exists. Many of the CSU's have a high percentage of commuter students. They also have a high percentage of older students who are either going back to school or never went to college. Cal Poly SLO would have to be the major exception (it's better than some of the UC's). Some CSU's have amazing programs in specific fields; Humboldt State has the nations top enviromental studies program for example.</p>
<p>Do also note that the reason why there are so many applicants for the CSU's is because they don't require essays and are judged strictly off of numbers (Just the SAT I and GPA) versus the UC "Comprehensive Review."</p>
<p>true snuffles...unlike UC where you have to take Sat IIs and all that crap CSU jus require GPA and Sat pretty cool</p>
<p>thanks economist for the clarification. </p>
<p>How does cal poly slo compare to the lower UC's?</p>
<p>Overall, I would rank SLO on the same level as UC Davis/UCSB/UCI. Their engineering programs are perhaps on the same level as UCSD (maybe even UCLA - but I dunno).</p>
<p>Furthermore, CPSLO architects are the #2 preferred in the industry, after Harvard.</p>
<p>Ummm, polarman, where are you getting your info? The engineerinmg majors at SLo are on par with the middle level UCs, not LA or SD and certainly not B. The engineering program is very solid and produced very good rank and file engineers, but not engineers that compete with grads of top schools.</p>
<p>what about Sonoma state? Anyone know if they check EC's? It seems like such a smaller school might?</p>
<p>gsp<em>silicon</em>valley:
Maybe you've never heard of channel islands because it's brand new. It's first graduating class graduates in 2007 or 2008. As it grows, it will become more prominent. Right now it only has about 10 majors! But I hear it's credential program is great.</p>
<p>Also, living in a CSU town, I know many people do choose CSUs as their first choice, and a lot of this choice has to do with money. CSUs are cheaper than UCs and private colleges, but also offer a great education at large, or small, universities. Also, many CSUs have great programs that aren't the same at UCs. Not everyone can go to UCLA, so if you want to be a broadcast journalist, why not go to SF State, or Chico State? People should look into the programs, and not just rely on the name and reputation.</p>
<p>LeChemin87, check out the CSUMentor for tons of info on all the CSU's. The common app used to apply to all schools does not ask for any EC info, except for SLO which has, as I recall, 4 additional questions. They ask for hours spent on EC's and work but no other information. My daughter has been accepted by Sonoma and Chico and only reported her GPA and ACT scores. </p>
<p>Sonoma is a small, but beautiful, residential campus. The have a unique Liberal Studies program that you can't get at other CSU's so if that's your interest you should really consider it, although they are no longer accepting applications for next fall.</p>
<p>Thanks! I was just wondering because I did not have the best grades sophmore and beg. of junior year and was hoping all my EC's could help.</p>