<p>Hey, I'm planning on becoming an investment banker like everyone else on this forum. I can't get into Wharton, or any of that other Ivy ****, so out of these schools, which one has the best finance program? Please rank them, and tell me how you think IUB "Kelley" ranks with the following, for there's a great chance I'll end up there...</p>
<p>(In no specific order)
1. Indiana University
2. Babson
3. Bentley
4. Villanova
5. Brigham Young
6. University of Wisconsin
7. Miami (OH)
8. Lehigh
9. Boston U
10. Fordham</p>
<p>Please rank these for FINANCE ONLY! Thanks...</p>
<p>IUB is definitely number #1. Not a bad school to end up at in any way. You however must work hard in academics and other extracuriculars to set yourself up for better job opportunities.</p>
<p>I think Indiana University might be your best bet, they have an investment banking workshop (Club or group thing). If you get into it, then you have a great chance on becoming an investment banker at a top bank. </p>
<p>i'd say villanova would be your best bet. rankings aren't everything, and check out the placement for villanova's undergraduate business program. they're quite good. </p>
<p>all i hear about IUB is about their flippin' i-banking workshop. i think it's pretty stupid since only the top TOP people get in and no one even knows much about indiana anyways.</p>
<p>Hey retard, are GS, Bear Stearns, JPMorgan, DB, etc. regional banks? This is where the 70 graduates in IB jobs from IU go to, and a few regionals, get your facts straight</p>
<p>look at their oci companies for ib you dip**** and then come back. </p>
<p>Dresner = middle market
BofA = having trouble attracting top talent as they choose other banks over their unit
Houlihan Lokey Howard & Zukin = serves smaller clients = middle market, yet still international
Brown Gibbons Lang & Company = middle market
ThinkEquity Partners = rather small middle market ibank
BMO = similar to bofa and big in CANADA and europe
Sandler O'Neill & Partners, L.P. = boutique for certan business sectors
Robert W. Baird & Co, Inc. = middle market</p>
<p>And then you have UBS, Goldman and Bear sterns, DB amd JPmorgan, three of which are commonly at the top of the league tables.</p>
<p>Whoopie, Goldman is a small presence on campus donating a measley 1k a year and taking a few students, JPmorgan taking the most</p>
<p>And dont give me some bs about 70 grads going to bulge brackets, the top hiring company was Deloitte with 20 and it goes down from there, with JPmorgan topping the lost of the top 10 hiring companies. However, they are at the bottom of that top ten list which would put that specific bank at around 10-13 full time hires. </p>
<p>However, over 10 students from Villanova were hired by Goldman alone. BYU has an alumni that will trump Indiana in reference to this specific field. Fordham has actual access to wall street. Wisconsin is increasing ibanking and consulting recruitment faster than Indiana. I can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on...............</p>
<p>Oh please, southpasadena. The Investment Banking Workshop alone places about 50-60 students per year with BBs.</p>
<p>And that is not including the students who simply get the job on their own. Which is why 10% of the entire student body in 2006 went into investment banking.</p>
<p>And I don't want to hear you come back with "Oh, those are just middle-markets!" I don't think you even understand what the term middle-market means. Calling Baird a middle-market? Like I said in the last thread where you popped up spouting nonsense, Baird is a boutique that specializes in asset management. And no, it doesn't matter that it has a capital markets division. Lazard had a capital markets division up until 2005. Does that mean it magically morphed from middle-market to boutique when it spun off Lazard Capital Markets?</p>
<p>Man, the stuff you kids come up with is just amazing.</p>
<p>south pasadena, you looked at the list of all the schools recruiting from IU and i can bet you, all the middle market or regionals only had one kid going there, but you chose to highlight them to say IU is regional. Also Villanova had about 5-6 at most placed at GS for ibanking based on their most recent info, but the total number is far less than IUs in terms of IB Front office placement which from my count is about 20 including the finance, accounting and econ majors and dont bs me that any other major placed alot of students because frankly Villanova is not an IVY where they will take any major
<a href="http://www.villanova.edu/studentlife/careers/placement/2005/datasearch.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.villanova.edu/studentlife/careers/placement/2005/datasearch.htm</a>
also can you please show me where BYU trump IU and if you dont beleive 60-70 kids went into ibanking from IU please visit <a href="http://www.kelley.iu.edu/ibw/resumes/2007/2007_Resume_Book.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.kelley.iu.edu/ibw/resumes/2007/2007_Resume_Book.pdf</a>. Now toolbag if your capable of figuring out proportions maybe you can figure out the proportion of students who actually went to regionals of those students and you will see it is no where near a majority. I can bet you every other big target school sends a few kids as well to the same types of places. BTW alot more kids were placed full time this year then last in IBANKING FRONT OFFICE from IU. Please show me where Villanova outplaces IU in IBANKING FRONT OFFICE CORPORATE FINANCE positions and also enlighten us on this BYU, wisconsin etc. comments i have never heard such assanine comments in my life. Please back these with proof also because just talking **** is not gonna get you anywhere none of the schools you mentioned outplace IU, and no one should listen to you unless you have actual proof.</p>
<p>BTW in 2006 a quarter of bear stearns analyst class was from IU, and IU placed the most kids into jpm ibanking tied with MIT</p>
<p>please do go on and on as you said you could</p>
<p>uhyea, learn to express your ideas in a cohesive manner. </p>
<p>Robert Baird has Mergers and acquisition, sales/trading and equity financing, thus constituting an investment banking division within the company. </p>
<p>So you are essentially saying that Goldman Sachs is not an investment bank due to its asset management division. Likely that would ever be true</p>
<p>Cited from Baird's website </p>
<p>"Baird is a leading middle-market focused investment bank serving the M&A and equity financing needs of our clients throughout the United States and Europe."</p>
<p>Then lets list their standard services</p>
<p>Advisory services
MA market analysis
MA trans
Equity financing
Share repurchases
Equity transactions
and it goes on</p>
<p>Then you have BAIRD'S career site specifically for ibanking</p>
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<p>retarded? Even the link you provided for nova showed 13 placed at GS. First you can't write, now you cant read</p>
<p>I know the hiring associates for Credit Suisse and BOFA and the are eager to expand at Wisconsin. As of 3 years ago actually, shortly after the creating of their investment club, over 30 people a year were finding ib jobs independently of the school or career office. Now that banks are actually holding oci, imagine where those numbers are going to go. </p>
<p>You seem to underestimate BYU's alumni network. Do some research</p>