<p>I think that would depend on who you talk to. In general I think most people consider them equal in prestige</p>
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Here's a list: (in order)
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<p>Yikes. Whose order? It's quite obvious that you're biased service-wise and geographically (Olin? WF? BU? I mean, really!). By the way, by and large, service academy grads sit on the extreme ends of the spectrum -- they're either extremely bright and capable or they're totally useless. And yes, the majority fall into the latter category.</p>
<p>UVa
UCLA
UCB
Stanford
MIT
Vanderbilt
Havery Mudd
Johns Hopkins
Georgia Tech
UIUC</p>
<p>mdepilot~ to specifically answer your initial question...YES TO UVA</p>
<p>wow...I don't anyone mentioned Johns Hopkins yet</p>
<p>there are a lot.</p>
<p>I think NOT being Ivy League is an asset in and of itself! Wink! :-></p>
<p>There are many, many terrific colleges all across the USA and there are great differences among them (just as there are within the group of 8 Ivy colleges). Below is a geographical listing of the top colleges in the land according to USNWR (top 30 national universities, top 20 LACs):</p>
<p>COLLEGES IN THE NORTHEAST </p>
<p>USNWR Rank, National Universities
7 MIT
28 Tufts</p>
<p>USNWR Rank, LACs
1 Williams
2 Amherst
3 Swarthmore
4 Wellesley
5 Middlebury
7 Bowdoin
10 Haverford
11 Wesleyan
11 Vassar
17 Colgate
17 Hamilton
17 Smith</p>
<p>COLLEGES IN THE WEST </p>
<p>USNWR Rank, National Universities
4 Stanford
5 Caltech
21 UC Berkeley
25 UCLA
27 USC</p>
<p>USNWR Rank, LACs
7 Pomona
11 CMC
15 Harvey Mudd</p>
<p>COLLEGES IN THE MID-ATLANTIC </p>
<p>USNWR Rank, National Universities
14 J Hopkins
23 Georgetown</p>
<p>COLLEGES IN THE SOUTH/SOUTHWEST </p>
<p>USNWR Rank, National Universities
8 Duke
17 Rice
17 Emory
19 Vanderbilt
23 U Virginia
28 U North Carolina
30 Wake Forest</p>
<p>USNWR Rank, LACs
9 Davidson
15 W&L</p>
<p>COLLEGES IN THE MIDWEST </p>
<p>USNWR Rank, National Universities
9 U Chicago
12 Wash U StL
14 Northwestern
19 Notre Dame
22 Carnegie Mellon
25 U Michigan</p>
<p>USNWR Rank, LACs
5 Carleton
11 Grinnell</p>
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wow...I don't anyone mentioned Johns Hopkins yet
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dnduswo did when he made the same suggestion I would have. Take the US News top 100 universities and colleges, subtract the Ivies, and you have your answer. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>^ top 20 lacs + reed + oberlin</p>
<p>CIT is currently ranked higher than MIT.</p>
<p>Go visit five schools you think you want to go to and ask a minimum of 15 students at each school 'How do you like going here?' You will very quickly reduce your list after hearing the % who do NOT giving it glowing remarks.</p>
<p>Inorder:</p>
<ol>
<li>Stanford/MIT/Caltech</li>
<li>Duke/UC Berkeley/Chicago/Northwestern/JHU</li>
<li>UVa/Michigan/Rice/Emory/Vandi/Washington U/Notre Dame</li>
</ol>
<p>There are some schools that have prestige/difficulty to get in/quality of eductaion equal to that of a typical Ivy League education:
Georgetown, Duke, UChicago, Berkeley, MIT, Stanford, Williams, Amherst, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins</p>
<p>Then there are a bunch of schools that fall in line just behind the Ivies and those mentioned above that are also highly regarded:
Rice, Washington, Vandy, Caltech, Notre Dame, Tufts, Swarthmore, Pomona, Michigan, Virginia, Bowdoin, Haverford, Carleton, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, UNC-Chapel Hill, Middlebury etc.</p>
<p>Duke and Stanford are unique when academics, athletics(both are in the top10 of the Sears Cup), and campus beauty are considered. Duke hoops is a great factor in Duke's school spirit(Cameron Indoor) and strong national alumni network.</p>
<p>Ivy calibre schools often overlooked ( esp if focused on undergrad teaching)</p>
<p>Rice
Davidson
William & Mary
Pomona/Claremont Mckenna
Wellesley
Georgetown
Tufts</p>
<p>well...in truth...once you get outside the Ivy Bubble....there are literally hundreds of outstanding schools to pick. Its a great myth that kids with super stats only end up at the top25 schools. There are kids with superstats all over the place...even some third tier schools....for a variety of reasons, sometimes scholarship money, and sometimes other personal reasons.</p>