Best PreMed Programs

Pre-Med & Medical School Pre-Med Topics
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<p>Hello,
I have been searching online for combined programs, but I'm having a hard time finding schools. So far I've only found that Brown and Northwestern have one. Would anyone happen to know of any other combined programs. I'm not a fan of early assurance programs like the one at georgetown, where you can apply to their med school in the third year. </p>

<p>Also sakky, I've always been a huge fan of MIT, it was my dream school all of middle school and into high school. But with the stats you showed me I'm a litle hesitant to apply, if i probably shouldn't go there because of the dificulty of getting into a med school. I'm not exactly sure whether I will follow my dad and become an anesthesiologist or a plastic surgeon. But I think you were right in saying that if you plan to open your own practition particularly a plastic surgeon, clients do look at where you got your degree when deciding. </p>

<p>Unless I get into a combined program or get a scholarship from a school her in the states, I will most probably go to Mcgill or U of Toronto, since I'm also a canadian citizen, so it will be really cheap for me, and my parents said that if I go there they will pay for my medical school. Do you think it will be easier or just as hard to get into a top medical school(or any medical school) in the states from a Canadian school? I am leaning strongly toward going to mcgill if I get in, just because I think having my parents pay for med school would be an amazing benefit. However the question is what are my chances of being in the top of my class, and getting into a medical school? Do they out weight the benfits of my parents paying for med school?</p>

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<p>what about like U of Miami vs Dartmouth? Is it really easier to go to a top medical school if one went to Dartmouth vs UMiami? If so then whats with the whole "where u go for undergrad doesnt matter" deal...im a bit confused. I would think the more prestige of the undergrad the better your chances at a top med school, considering GPA/MCAt scores are reletaively equal...someone please provide some deep thoughtful insight before i jump off a bridge, lol</p>

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<p>has anyone ever felt like they actually love the sciences (organic chem, physics, bio) and they think its interesting but sometimes at the same time really hate it because of how everyone is so competitive to get an A in them are?</p>

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<p>how good is URochester premed?</p>

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<p>"has anyone ever felt like they actually love the sciences (organic chem, physics, bio) and they think its interesting but sometimes at the same time really hate it because of how everyone is so competitive to get an A in them are?"</p>

<p>totally agree (Cept for physics).....im such a laid back person but i know if i want to become a doctor its gonna be so cut throat</p>

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<p>I like competition, it keeps me on my toes otherwise I tend to just settle for mediocre</p>

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<p><a href="http://services.aamc.org/currdir/section3/degree2.cfm?data=yes&program=bsmd%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://services.aamc.org/currdir/section3/degree2.cfm?data=yes&program=bsmd&lt;/a> has a list compiled by the AAMC. The links on there are to the medical schools, so you may have to do a little searching to figure out which undergraduate institution is affiliated with the program (usually it's within the same university; eg. Keck School of Medicine of the University of Southern California is affiliated with USC)</p>

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<p>Can someone gime any info on Dartmouth and Amherst and how they compare in terms of helping med-school applicants?</p>

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<p>wash u also has an accelerated program, which is ideal since wash u is currently the best medical school. it's called the university scholars program, which is not difficult to find on their website.</p>

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wash u is currently the best medical school.

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By what standards? (The common standard, US News's rankings, would indicate that Wash U is ~4 or so. Excellent by any standards.)</p>

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<p>It occurs to me that you probably mean Wash U is the top-ranked school that offers a BS/MD program?</p>

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<p>by the standards of doctors in my family and circle of friends.</p>

<p>and no.</p>

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<p>um although you are right mostly about ivies and stanford, princeton probably isn't the best example. I say this because in recent years they have started to be well known for grade deflation because of the fact that they had become so notoriously known as grade infaltors. As of now i don't think they have inflation.</p>

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um although you are right mostly about ivies and stanford, princeton probably isn't the best example. I say this because in recent years they have started to be well known for grade deflation because of the fact that they had become so notoriously known as grade infaltors. As of now i don't think they have inflation.

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<p>Princeton's inflation was no worse than, say, Stanford's or Harvard's. </p>

<p>And even with the new Princeton grading policy, Princeton is STILL grade inflated. Specifically, I know a lot of MIT and Caltech students who would love to be in classes that use the new Princeton curve.</p>

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<p>In previous post mentioned that I've been really interested in attending MIT. I know I need top grades to get into medical schools. I believe someone mentioned that 25% of MIT students don't get into any med school. I'm a really hard working and dedicated student, but is it not right to assume that any one who gets into MIT has those characteristics. Can we say those 25% who don't get into med schools perhaps slacked off freshmen year, or something. Perhaps what I'm looking for is some assurance that I will not be one of the 25% who don't continue in medical school. I mean is the grading so dramatically different from HYPS that it's worth sacrificing the education I want from MIT to improve my chances of getting into a medical school?</p>

<p>I'm also looking at McGill in Canada, since I'm a candian citizen residing in the USA. I like McGill, it's not MIT but it certainly costs less, as a citizen tuition for me is roughly $4,000. I know that usually physicians aren't asked where they studied medicine or undergrad. However, I'm also a member of the European Union, (I'm originally polish), and have thought of going back to europe after studying and finishing my residency in North America. Does it seem logical that I would want to finish at the top institutions inorder to get hired in europe?</p>

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<p>Its their GPAs, its just damn hard to do well at MIT.</p>

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<p>I mean, 75% compares poorly to schools like Duke or Harvard, but the national average is like 45%, and MIT is roughly in Stanford's range.</p>

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I believe someone mentioned that 25% of MIT students don't get into any med school.

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<p>First off, it's not just that 25% of MIT students don't get into any med-school. Rather, it's that 25% of those MIT premed students WHO APPLY to med-school don't get in anywhere. Plenty of premeds students at MIT (just like any other school) don't even apply because they know they won't get in. For example about 10-15% of MIT students don't even manage to graduate at all. Plenty of those that do graduate do so with quite mediocre grades. For example, if you graduate from MIT with a 2.1/4.0 GPA, you know you're not getting into med-school, so why waste your time and money in applying? </p>

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I'm a really hard working and dedicated student, but is it not right to assume that any one who gets into MIT has those characteristics. Can we say those 25% who don't get into med schools perhaps slacked off freshmen year, or something.

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<p>See above. I would say that of those MIT students who were not hard working or who slacked off, many of them won't even graduate at all. Others may graduate, but, like I said, with only mediocre grades. </p>

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I'm also looking at McGill in Canada, since I'm a candian citizen residing in the USA. I like McGill, it's not MIT but it certainly costs less, as a citizen tuition for me is roughly $4,000. I know that usually physicians aren't asked where they studied medicine or undergrad. However, I'm also a member of the European Union, (I'm originally polish), and have thought of going back to europe after studying and finishing my residency in North America. Does it seem logical that I would want to finish at the top institutions inorder to get hired in europe?

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<p>The European and US medical systems are quite different and transfers between the two are not automatic. I would say that if you want to be a doctor in Europe, you should just go study in Europe. </p>

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MIT is roughly in Stanford's range

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<p>I'd really like to see these Stanford numbers. Do you have a link?</p>

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<p>does anyone know of, or have a list of some of the colleges with the highest med school acceptance rates?? and also some of the lowest?? i cant afford an ivy league school, so if your list only consists of those, you dont have to bother posting.</p>

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<p>Sakky,</p>

<p>The Stanford data is not published online; it exists in hard copy only and I'm not in possession of the data but I have seen it. I can promise you that I'm not mistaken; this of course still leaves open the possibility that I'm simply lying to you (but I'm not).</p>

<p>With that said, there are a few reasons we'd expect Stanford's numbers to be lower. First, they have more CA applicants and therefore deal more with the highly selective UC system. Second, they have a disproportionately large number of premeds, so you expect that perhaps their informal screening is not as strong as other schools' (i.e. their advising may be worse).</p>