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With that said, there are a few reasons we'd expect Stanford's numbers to be lower. First, they have more CA applicants and therefore deal more with the highly selective UC system. Second, they have a disproportionately large number of premeds, so you expect that perhaps their informal screening is not as strong as other schools' (i.e. their advising may be worse).
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<p>I can agree with you on the first point, but not on the second. I see no reason to believe that Stanford would have any more premeds, proportionally, than its peer schools of HYPM, and it is a comparative analysis that we are doing here. </p>
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does anyone know of, or have a list of some of the colleges with the highest med school acceptance rates??
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<p>The best would be obviously those combined BS/MD programs which, purely by definition, would have a 100% med-school admit rate for the students who stay eligible.</p>
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<p>Sorry, I didn't explain clearly. I don't know why this is either (i.e. I can't propose a mechanism), but the same piece of paper with their admissions percentage on it had a much higher-than-normal number.</p>
<p>I find it very hard to believe that Stanford only has a 75% premed acceptance rate. Maybe this was a typo, or for re-applicants only (who usually have a lower rate of admissions) or some other subgroup, but it doesn't make sense at all, especially considering Stanford is one of the most grade-inflated schools out there. Brown I know has a ~90% rate, so Stanford at 75% seems kind of odd.</p>
<p>right now i want to go to college for premed after i graduate from high school....and i was thinking about eventually applying to brown....how is that as a premed school....does anyone know about their statistics about how many people get accepted to med schools?</p>
<p>Does anyone know anything about about the pre med programs of Penn State, BU, University of Wisconsin, University of Michigian, University of Indiana, UVA, and University of Maryland? Thanks!</p>
<p>There are many ways schools determine their medical school acceptance rates. Some pre-select those they will write recommendations for by GPA and MCAT scores or by attrition. University of Richmond has an 81% acceptance rate with no score pre-selectivity and only a 35% undergrad attrition rate by those who choose other majors. Here is a link.</p>
<p>Do not be scared by the tuition. They have very generous financial aid packages. My son is going there (not pre-med) and it was actually cheaper for him to attend than instate UVA or W&M.</p>
<p>Hopkins may be very difficult but put it this way... Hopkins has the best medical school in the country. Hopkins has about 120 Med school acceptances.. and of those 100, about 8 are hopkins undergrads.</p>
<p>I disagree strongly that those numbers mean anything. Hopkins kids are more likely to apply and more likely to matriculate to Johns Hopkins. Their actual admissions percentage to Hopkins might be advantaged, or it might be disadvantaged. (And please do NOT return with relative admissions percentages unless you have everything properly controlled for.)</p>
<p>Schools will always have the most matriculants from their own home institutions. Whether it puts them at an advantage or disadvantage is impossible to discern.</p>
<p>My point is, hopkins kids have all the resources available to them as the schools mentioned before, even without grade inflation. All medschools, or at least reputable ones, recognize the rigorous nature of hopkins. Furthermore, at hopkins before applying to med school, you are asked to interview at hopkins, where they evaluate your progress and give you a cover letter for your application... basically saying we support this student. This all med schools admissions offices know as well.</p>
<p>Since you seem to be in the know w/ Hopkins, do you know the approx. GPA/MCAT cutoffs for the screening process by the Hopkins premed committee?</p>
<p>Letters and mock interviews are done by most private undergraduate schools. And I've not been able to find a school that gets a "GPA boost" for grade inflation (in fairness, I have not examined Hopkins' statistics).</p>
<p>Don't go out of your way to respond only to the difficulty or easiness of a school - neither, in and of itself, is a boost factor.</p>
<p>I've read the posts by many of the members and I realize that acceptance into medical school does not depend as much on where you go to undergraduate school, as your GPAand MCAT scores. However, I am also aware that many schools boast "strong premedical courses of study" such as Boston University, where I am currently. I'm a freshman, class of 2010, and I have been wondering about my options about transfering to another university. I have been discouraged from doing this because of BU's "excellent" premedical program, however I feel as though this is just not the right school for me to attend. I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge on comparing the undergraduate premedical program at Tufts University with that of Boston University. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.</p>
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<p>One could say the same thing about the rigor of MIT and Caltech. I would hope that med-schools recognize the rigor of those schools. But that doesn't really seem to help those premeds from the tech institutes. It may be a case of the med-schools knowing about the rigor, but not caring. The average admitted premed from MIT does not have lower grades than does the average admitted premed nationwide, and that is what you would expect if med-schools actually 'cared' about the rigor of MIT. Caltech, same story.</p>
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<p>The notion of the JHU cover letter is actually somewhat controversial. An article in the JHU newsletter (unfortunately which has been pulled from their website) detailed how some students were bitterly unhappy with their experience in obtaining this letter, as they felt that the office attempted to discourage some students who didn't have top grades/test scores from even applying to any med-schools by threatening to write a bad cover letter, despite the fact that that some (admittedly rare) people with mediocre grades/test scores still managed to get into med-school. They probably got into low-tier med-schools, but they still got in. Hence, in the article, some students felt that JHU was actively trying to certain students from even applying, perhaps in an attempt to keep the premed placement rating high (as those who don't even apply don't get counted in the placement calculation).</p>
<p>What I would say is that no premed office should be in the business of deciding who gets to apply to med-school and who doesn't. It's one thing to advise students. But the decision is up to the student. And you certainly don't go around forcing students to submit bad cover letters where the premed office says derogatory things about the student. If the premed office doesn't want to support a candidate, then fine, don't write a letter at all for him. If a particular premed officer feels that he cannot support a positive rec for a particular student, fine. Then that officer doesn't have to sign the rec. But you don't deliberately try to hurt your own students' candidacies by sticking their application with a bad rec letter. If the med-schools want to reject those students, that's their decision. You're not supposed to be doing their job for them.</p>
<p>Pointing out for the audience's benefit that for reasons that have to do with formalities (med schools require such letters), I believe sakky proposes that Hopkins should have a generic "Hopkins is great" cover letter written for students for whom the admissions office does not want to write a "this student is great" cover letter.</p>