<p>what is the best school a student can getinto with perfect scores SATs and SAT 2's, and perfect gpa but with absolutely no ecs or research or awards??</p>
<p>I do not know about domestic, but Oxford does not consider EC's at all in admissions, so maybe look at that.</p>
<p>bump!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>comeone people....this means a lot to one of my friends reply please</p>
<p>But jaug1 is right. In the US ECs have a really heavy weight. To get into a top school without them would seem impossible unless there was a really good reason (such as took SATS from hospital bed after open heart surgery and has since never been well enough to attend school.). To get into a top (selective I mean) school your friend would probably need to apply abroad. Schools in Europe don't care about ECs, only grades.</p>
<p>I would say Cornell or Northwestern ED would be a good shot, or the European schools of course.</p>
<p>If you have a 800 V 800 M and a 4.0 GPA and you are Black, Hispanic, American Indian, or a legacy, you will make Harvard.</p>
<p>too bad for us non-smart urm's such as myself lol :p</p>
<p>Yeah, I think you can fake ECs if you have to... I mean they dont have to be great just something, I think he'll make quite a few schools.</p>
<p>i don't think he's doomed.</p>
<p>University of Toronto, McGill, Queens, and Waterloo (although Waterloo is heavily centered on engineering) are all good Canadian schools, and Canadian schools don't consider ECs. Not to mention they are cheaper than most non-in-state public schools in the US.</p>
<p>my friend wants to study engineering but was wondering if he could get into MIT or university of illinois urbana</p>
<p>He is in at pretty much any state school, including Michigan (a much better choice than Illinios-UC.) MIT is a reach but very much worth the application. He should start adding some ECs now, even if they are of little importance.</p>
<p>i would say those scores would take him into u mich. even if his ECs are a little lacking, i think michigan is a safe bet. .... probably. nothing's guaranteed, right?</p>
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<p>Don't count on it. Check out "A Voice in the Massive Wind" by KingErdosII for more information. He was deferred. Ridiculous.</p>
<p>If you are in to small colleges (although the combination of campuses combine for 6000+ students), Harvey Mudd is top notch for engineering as long as you plan on pursuing a PhD or Masters. If you don't, it might be hard for you to get work outside of california, but it still won't be hard. Also, consider GaTech for engineering.</p>
<p>most state colleges have a direct formula that only considers pure academics, EC"s only for scholorships</p>
<p>UCs consider a ton of things, but academics come first and foremost in the admissions process. ECs can tip the scale in your favor, but academics still comprise something like 70% of the weight in admissions. The rest comes from ECs, volunteer work, work, overcoming hardships, and the intangibles.</p>
<p>A hardship would be like.......my pet chicken died before i was taking the SATs and so my grade dropped from perfect to a 1590 or 2390.</p>
<p>Harvard or Yale might be tough (they are for everyone). I would say there would be a solid chance at the lower ivies (Penn, Cornell, etc.), and other good schools like GTown, Northwestern, NYU, Emory, etc. Top liberal arts schools and top state schools should also be considered.</p>