<p>i lovee itt.</p>
<p>I’d like to fully retract my original post, which claimed that Andover received almost 1,000 more apps than last year. I received a message from the office of admission reporting that the numbers I quoted were false. I received the numbers from someone who works in the admissions office, so I’m not sure how the numbers were so wrong. Regardless, my original source certainly was well-meaning and in a position to know application statistics, but my original message was wrong.</p>
<p>I apologize from the bottom of my heart and I’m sorry for all the applicants who were mislead by my thread. It was not at all what I intended and I sincerely hope that you will continue to view me as a reliable source of information pertaining to Phillips Academy. What follows is my communication with the admissions office - I’ve deleted parts to protect identities.</p>
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<p>Xxxxxxxx,
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We got more applications than last year but it is not even in the realm of 700. We are not releasing our final number of applications until the decision letters go out.
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Please post a retraction and I will forgive you. Xxxxxx xx xxx xxxxxxx xx xx xxxx.
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Thank you,
Xxxxxxxx</p>
<p>From: Xxxxxxxx X. Xxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:04 PM
To: X
Subject: Re: College Confidential
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Hey there,
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Ms. X said so when I calculated potential acceptance rate I only calculated with the 700… I’m sorry… How many more apps did you get than last year?
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Please don’t kill me</p>
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Xxxxxxxx</p>
<p>On 25 Feb 2010, at 11:52, “X” <a href=“mailto:x@andover.edu”>x@andover.edu</a> wrote:</p>
<p>Who told you we got 1000 more applications, Xxxxxxxx? That’s not true.
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<p>X
x
Phillips Academy
Office of Admission & Financial Aid
180 Main Street
Andover, MA 01810
tel 978.xxx.xxxx
fax 978.xxx.xxxx
Phillips Academy - An Independent Boarding High School
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<p>Ahh Tom this is such a reliever, I was very worried about the fact that there were 1000 more applications than last year but now that I have seen this, I feel more reassured. I know there are still more applications than last year but still, considerably less than 1000. Do you think there would be more around between 200-500 more applications than last year ?
Again thanks a lot for the updated info, I think it is highly appreciated by us CC’ers applying to Andover.</p>
<p>Bump…10char</p>
<p>If I’m a phony I’m a bit of a persistent one, don’t you think?</p>
<p>Deerkiss, why are you so negative. Be positive, be happy, and try to be nicer to others.</p>
<p>Haha yeah I think Deerkiss has some issues because on every other thread Deerkiss either puts someone down, challwnges their intelligence or simply persits on annoying people !</p>
<p>TomTheCat, aren’t you like a student tour guide? If he is then he would obviously be in contact with admission officers.</p>
<p>Yeah, I am - this I’m applying to be head tour guide next year, actually. I regularly have conversations with admissions officers, but of course I don’t hear anything privileged that I shouldn’t.</p>
<p>Deerkiss
glad to see most of ur comments r deleted bc u r really rude and inconsiderate</p>
<p>I’m not sure where you’re getting these ideas, because they’re patently false - Andover’s academic program is among the most rigorous in the country. Clearly you’re not speaking from experience of Andover’s program - you’d eat your words right up off the ground. Andover’s average SAT score (2076) is one of the highest in the country, their AP pass rate and 5 rate, 96% and 55% respectively, are among the highest in the country, and about 30% of Phillips Academy graduates go on to attend Ivy League universities. The average senior here takes all 500-level courses, all of which are at the college level. Last year, Andover sent 20 students to Harvard. That’s the highest number of students to Harvard, accepted as the best university in the world, of any high school - in the world. Period.</p>
<p>I’m not sure why you think the IB is so great; my old school was an IB school and in my experience the IB program is ludicrously restrictive. There’s no wiggle room - you have a set number of required credits. What happens if you’re into science and you want to take three sciences concurrently? You can’t do it. What happens if you’re not into math and want to take two art classes, an area you’re very gifted in? You can’t do it. The IB program does not foster uniqueness or individualized skills and caters specifically to “average” students who don’t have areas of interest such that they’d desire to explore them in any great detail. The IB program may be “rigorous” but only by virtue of the fact that there are so many requirements. That aside, a whole bunch of idiots still ‘undergo’ the program - idiots, however, aren’t reeeeaaaallllllly all that common at Andover…</p>
<p>Yes Tom I do strongly agree with you, my school offers the IB and yes it is rigourus but as you said you cannot specialize as much which can be a dissadvantage to some, but on the other hand most Universites around the world accept it. So all in all it is not for everyone but it has some advantages and some dissadvantages.</p>
<p>Andover along with Exeter and Lawrenceville actually created the original pilot AP program which was funded by the Ford Foundation. Andover actually offers post-AP classes.</p>
<p>I’d strongly disagree with you, Tom. I mean, i don’t do IB so it may be crap, but it’s high school and I absolutely think high school should provide a solid grounding in the liberal arts which is what IB offers. (Isn’t that what Andover does too?!) Strength in the program may depend on the school/teachers, but the thing that I dislike about the British education system is that it’s FAR too specialized and hence forces students to choose a specific field early on. Many students (aka me) aren’t sure what they want to do in life yet and more often that not, you get a ton of students doing 3 sciences and can’t write for crap. I’m not implying that most are like that at all but the way the system is definitely gravitates students into either the ‘science/math oriented’ group or the humanities inclined group. The American system are polar opposites because you are heavily grounded in all disciplines, much like liberal arts colleges.</p>
<p>I agree that the IB may be rigorous manly because of the many and rigid requirements.</p>
<p>don’t many schools restrict you to at most two classes in the same discipline/department a term?</p>
<p>Not where i came from. The only compulsory subject from grade 10 onwards is english and maths. We take 6 subjects altogether and tons of kids take 3 sciences and an extra (advanced) math class.</p>
<p>No Fear. You are now free to talk without insults. Deerkiss was just banned. Thank you moderators!</p>
<p>I agree with Tom, I’m no IB fan. My last 2 schools have been IB and my older sister is in the final part. I think IB is great if you’re a mildly above average student, who loves being organized and doing work ect… You know the type but for those who are into more creative stuff or don’t have completely standard interests then it’s boring. Plus all the ‘evaluating’ and ‘planning’ crap drives me nuts.</p>
<p>I am so with you BlueRaven. I believe IB puts way too much work into “planning” things out. My teacher even told us if you do IB, ‘be prepared to have no social life junior or senior year’ and at the end you have to write a 4000 word essay about some subject.</p>
<p>To me Andover or Exeter’s curriculum is definitely better.</p>