<p>*Barack Obama is a "decidedly liberal" senator "who was finding his feet, and then got diverted by his presidential ambitions", according to a frank verdict delivered to Gordon Brown by the British ambassador to the United States. *</p>
<p>Obama</a> and the New Party - HUMAN EVENTS</p>
<p>You can keep denying his left wing. doo da doo</p>
<p>Last year before the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, Barack Obama told pro-abortion activists: "The first thing I'd do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act."</p>
<p>With a single stroke of the pen, the Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA) would wipe away virtually every state law on abortion nationwide, allowing abortion-on-demand in all nine months of pregnancy for any reason and without any restrictions. </p>
<p>I'm terrified. Socialist New Party, Ayers, first issue he'd sign is abortion. AHH!!!</p>
<p>Conservatives don't have to worry about abortion b/c they so rarely get laid.</p>
<p>Nah, I'm just kidding.</p>
<p>Credit to George Carlin, who asked why pro-lifers always tend to be people you wouldn't want to have sex with in the first place?</p>
<p>This thread is done. No one is paying attention to anything I say. I bid this insultfest adieu.</p>
<p>nbachris2788: Conservatives don't have to worry about abortion b/c they so rarely get laid.</p>
<p>Nah, I'm just kidding.</p>
<p>Credit to George Carlin, who asked why pro-lifers always tend to be people you wouldn't want to have sex with in the first place?</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>No one's denying that Obama is liberal or pro-choice. </p>
<p>You're implying that's inherently a bad thing. For many, that is considered a positive. Not necessarily me, but you shouldn't buy into the conservative hype that the mere mention of the word "liberal" should make peoples' skin crawl.</p>
<p>Without liberals, Sarah Palin certainly wouldn't be gracing us with her profound wisdom and curiosity about the world.</p>
<p>????</p>
<p>It's sad that people can't accept differences of opinion. Of course it's my opinion that Obama's decidedly liberalness is unacceptable...to me.</p>
<p>If you can't figure that out, I don't know what to tell you, except to learn the difference between a fact (water kills fire) and a firm unapologetic opinion (that doesn't need to be prefaced with "I think, let's hug").</p>
<p>Most liberal Senator. Yep, more liberal than others. Voted lock step with his party. Where is his independent judgment? Forget the fact about his left-wing mindset, one also has to take into consideration how truly bipartisan he can be. Is he known as one that crosses the aisles? No, some nuclear and ethics things that the party thrusted onto him don't prove anything.</p>
<p>Personally, I don't like liberalism. I liked Clinton, Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman (before he was hated by his party, and remember, he's...left on a lot of things, just not lax on national security). The Clinton-Miller types recognized that government has a role in lifting people up, but it's not government's job to spoon feed them (welfare reform, HOPE scholarship). Not a fan of San Franciso Pelosi "Don't drill I'm trying to save the planet".
His change isn't about making Washington "work", it's about destroying Bush, destroying the Republicans, and hailing in a new Democratic majority, a majority that he will use to push his left-wing, Socialist New party past.</p>
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<p>Being hated by your own party is not a sign of bipartisanship. It's more of a sign of self-promoting ******baggery where you try to draw as much attention and importance to yourself by stabbing your own allies in the back from time to time.</p>
<p>Being bipartisan simply means that you can get the other side to listen to you and get things done, not selling out your own principles roughly 50% of the time. Look at the ratio of Republican politicians willing to support Obama and the number of Democratic politicians willing to support McCain. It's not even a contest. Obama even has Republican congressmen boasting about their friendship with him. McCain has Holy Joe.</p>
<p>Clinton is not hated by his own party despite his constant bucking of them. The party might hate Miller and Lieberman but they don't represent their party, they represent their constituents. Last I remember, Lieberman got elected again, and of course, Miller is highly revered, even among conservatives in Georgia.</p>
<p>"Personally, I don't like liberalism. I liked Clinton"</p>
<p>Obama is running Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign again. How can you like one but not the other?</p>
<p>Oh, and Clinton was attacked mercilessly by an unpopular incumbent party for being too liberal as well.</p>
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Clinton is not hated by his own party despite his constant bucking of them. The party might hate Miller and Lieberman but they don't represent their party, they represent their constituents. Last I remember, Lieberman got elected again, and of course, Miller is highly revered, even among conservatives in Georgia.
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<p>You didn't address my point, which was that bipartisanship doesn't mean being hated by your own party, nor does it mean selling out your principles roughly 50% of the time.</p>
<p>Pug,</p>
<p>If Bush were able to run again this year and was on the ticket with Palin, would you vote for him? If not, why?</p>