<p>pros and cons?</p>
<p>im wondering the same thing.
Geneseo is smaller</p>
<p>Binghamton:
14,000 students</p>
<p>Geneseo:
5,500 students</p>
<p>Binghamton=University
Geneseo=College</p>
<p>Binghamton=better reputation
Geneseo=Largely unheard of</p>
<p>Geneseo=better campus
Binghamton=worse campus</p>
<p>Binghamton= Liberal Arts
Geneseo=sciences etc</p>
<p>Binghamton= small city
Geneseo=1 road town</p>
<p>Geneseo is close to Rochester
Binghamton is close to Binghamton :)</p>
<p>Both almost average in terms of statistics</p>
<p>Geneseo used to be a private university before it came under the SUNY system - meaning its a much higher budget institution.</p>
<p>From what Ive heard the academics at Geneseo are for the most part on par with Binghamton, but Binghamton has more of the science opportunities while the arts are better at Geneseo.</p>
<p>Geneseo's campus is beautiful, Bing's is butt ugly. Bing is "urban" (if u can call binghamton a city at all), and Geneseo is majorly suburban. (close to rural)</p>
<p>I'll tell you one thing, the city of Binghamton is the most crappy place I have ever visited. I recently visited this week and that fact alone is blowing me away and choosing another school. I hear the town of Geneseo is very nice and it's like a small LAC- although It's made of largely white females from what I hear.</p>
<p>The area around Binghamton is really dumpy and run-down...but i guess because the campus is situated in the valley, it makes up for it....kinda...</p>
<p>Geneseo is a very hilly campus, and things are somewhat spread apart. Very lush and green. Geneseo is also in a valley too. The town is small though, but you have basically everything you need like Pizza Hut, Starbucks, and Taco Bell.</p>
<p>And don't be fooled that Geneseo might not have a name yet. It's has made itself a name in Grad schools like Georgetown, Columbia, Harvard, and Johns Hopkins. Have you seen Kiplinger's Best Values in Public Colleges? It's a list of all the top 100 Public schools in the nation for academics and price. Geneseo is #7 Bing is #9. Stony Brook, Albany, Fredonia, Plattsburgh, Buffalo, and New Paltz also made the list. So the SUNY system isn't completely unknown.</p>
<p>the SUNY system is definitely coming out of the dust...</p>
<p>Bing is turning out to be an excellent place w/ many bright students.
Stony Brook has had many breakthroughs and is definitely leading in the areas of science and research.
And Geneseo is being looked upon as a great Liberal Arts college.</p>
<p>Compared to other public universities however, sadly other states are still ahead - California, Michigan, and Virginia just to name a few.</p>
<p>both are really great schools, i'm going to bing for biology. but i have a question....is binghamton really a "public ivy"? it is as good as an ivy??</p>
<p>public ivy? sadly, no
A public ivy would be UC Berkeley, U Michigan, or U Virginia.</p>
<p>However...
Binghamton's academics are very respectable and are comparable to some of the top colleges in the nation. I believe that in the years to come, Bing will move up the charts as a great public niversity.</p>
<p>Lots of people consider Geneseo a Public Ivy....some people consider it a Public Honors College....</p>
<p>You want to know why people dont like Binghamton....is because the majority of kids who go there were Ivy League rejects or Couldn't afford Ivy League....thats why princeton review one year named Binghamton with "most unhappiest students" when you first meet someone, within five minutes you'd be asked "So what was your first choice?" If you really want to go to Binghamton, than you'll be happy there.</p>
<p>The 8 Public Ivies are as follows:
UVa
Cal-Berkeley
Michigan
UNC
Texas
William & Mary
UCLA
Wisconsin</p>
<p>Also in the running:
Georgia Tech
Illinois U-C
Miami of Ohio
UCSan Diego</p>
<p>Well ahead of any SUNY School:
Delaware
Maryland
Penn State
UConn
Rutgers
UMass
UNH
Vermont
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Missouri
Minnesota
Ohio State
Ohio U
Purdue
Clemson
Georgia
James Madison
NC State
U South Carolina
Virginia Tech
Arizona
Cal Poly SLO
Colorado
UC Davis
UC Irvine
UC Santa Barbara
U Washington
for starters -- and none of these will ever be considered "public Ivies" -- and neither should any SUNY school.</p>
<p>If you want an Ivy education, public or private in New York State, go to Columbia or Cornell. If you want an Ivy-caliber education in New York state, go to Colgate, Barnard or Vassar. You can even add to that group Hamilton, Rochester, NYU and RPI -- and yes, even St. Lawrence, Union and Skidmore, all well ahead of Binghamton in what they offer their students and more important, their graduates.</p>
<p>As long as the lawmakers in Albany refuse to have a flagship campus for the SUNY system, Binghamton will never break its Third Tier status.</p>
<p>collegeparent:
Im happy to hear that URochester's academics are considered to be ivy-caliber =) (ill be there in the fall) - I think Rochester,NYU, and RPI can definitely offer an ivy-caliber education - just not in all disciplines the way ivy schools do. RPI is ivy-caliber engineering. NYU is ivy-caliber arts and business. Rochester is ivy-caliber Physics,engineering, business, and social science. </p>
<p>I agree that schools like Colgate, Barnard, and Vassar can offer a great education in many disciplines - though I must say that the sciences at Vassar might be lacking...</p>
<p>As for the SUNY system -
It is a sad, but true, fact that the SUNY system is indeed behind in comparison to other public universities. However - I'd like to point out that the graduate programs at SUNY Stony Brook are beginning to be recognized nationally and internationally as some of THE best in the world. Physics at Stony Brook ranks among the ivies according to the National Research Council's studies and has attracted many highly qualified faculty and talented students - which will continue to push stony brook foward. I believe there will be a flagship campus for the SUNY system in the near future - and I think it will be Stony Brook.</p>
<p>BInghamton? eh....not sure..</p>
<p>Awakien, you could be right about a flagship SUNY being on Long Island; however, because of its "central" location, it'd probably go to Binghamton -- but that's wait-and-see.</p>
<p>And you're right about Stony Brook's graduate sciences; they are gaining but they do have a long way to go, but at least they're going.</p>
<p>wow a lot of you are way off on your facts.
I've spent the last year researching schools and I visited Geneseo and Binghamton
And I'm from NY so I know the SUNY system pretty well </p>
<p>for the person who said Binghamton=liberal arts
and Geneseo= sciences
it's the other way around...maybe you knew that but just mixed them up by accident because you were pretty accurate with everything else</p>
<p>For the person who listed a bunch of schools "Well ahead of any SUNY School" You are wrong about most of them; udel, uconn, vermont, new hampshire, Umass, Rutgers to name a few...c'mon binghamton and geneseo are way up there when it comes to state schools, yes not up there with UVa but pretty up there. Statistically (looking at the GPA and SAT averages and percent admitted), Binghamton and Geneseo are way more competitive than most of those schools. There are a bunch of schools I'm applying to including Udel, UMD, Uconn and Penn state but at the top of my list are Binghamton and Geneseo because they're the best ones</p>
<p>Also, Binghamton is rated higher than stonybrook though stonybrook may have a better science program</p>
<p>Oh and it is true that a lot of people who are rejected from, say, Cornell decide to go to Binghamton but actually Binghamton has a 92% freshman-to-sophomore year retention rate which means a lot of students decide to return for a second year, indicating they are happy there (after all, transferring is not such an uncommon or difficult practice). That percentage is higher than many other colleges and universities. I know A LOT of people who go to Binghamton and they absolutely LOVE it there. And I think the fact many students who even have a shot at an ivy league school and decide to go to binghamton is a positive one. Those students probably could go to UVA or some other great school but they chose binghamton. I think that says a lot about the school. </p>
<p>I'm going to have to agree on the whole ugly campus thing for Binghamton. That is one of the factors that is making me lean towards Geneseo. I want a nice atmosphere.</p>
<p>sorry I meant percent accepted not percent admitted</p>
<p>
[quote]
Well ahead of any SUNY School:
Delaware
Maryland
Penn State
UConn
Rutgers
UMass
UNH
Vermont
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Missouri
Minnesota
Ohio State
Ohio U
Purdue
Clemson
Georgia
James Madison
NC State
U South Carolina
Virginia Tech
Arizona
Cal Poly SLO
Colorado
UC Davis
UC Irvine
UC Santa Barbara
U Washington
[/quote]
</p>
<p>What a malicious post!!</p>
<p>Do Binghamton/Geneseo students go to top grad or professional schools?</p>
<p>Albany and Buffalo are the "de facto" flagship campuses of SUNY. It's only a matter of time before New York makes it official. They are the only two still in contention to be "University of New York". Presently, Binghamton has better undergraduate selection criteria than the other university centers but that's because it's primarily a small undergraduate college. It’s no more a university center than New Paltz or Platsburgh. It's also temporary, until New York realizes it needs institutions to compete with Michigan and UCLA… that means research, not churning out bachelor’s degrees. The only basis for a SUNY flagship is Albany and Buffalo… witness Albany’s new $4 billion Nano Tech College and Buffalo's professional schools. It’s only a matter of time before that attracts the undergraduates as a means to get into the graduate schools.</p>
<p>New Yorkers focus on these small New England private schools way too much. It's fine if you're going to live and die in New York but don't move out of state. Do you think that private school has any name recognition in California, Florida or Michigan? Have they even heard of this $30k a year school in nowhere small town NY or MA? Who cares about that private school outside of New York and moreover, why do you care to compare it to SUNY? New Yorkers also fixate on the bachelor's degree in a time that a BA is less and less relevant. It's the new high school diploma. With the exception of the Ivy League, which lives off its name recognition, private colleges will not be able to compete with state flagships and they will price themselves out of existence. It takes billions of dollars to lead in new technologies and only the state has the funds to compete.</p>
<p>Blow your money at a small private college to get a ubiquitous BA if it will make you feel better about yourself but in the long run your better off at a state flagship and that is either Albany or Buffalo. Stop fooling yourself. There are no “public ivies” and Binghamton isn’t a flagship. Only in New York would you hear such a ridiculous discussion….</p>
<p>It doesn't matter whether Binghamton or Geneseo is or isn't a public ivy or a flagship or whatever...you can get an excellent education at either for a realistic cost and be surrounded by high achieving students who recognize value. There are many places in the United States where educated and intelligent people have no idea what Brown or Dartmouth are also!</p>
<p>periodically someone posts stating that one suny or another is REALLY the flagship -- that simply reflects people's personal views of the campuses, not state policy or reality. it simply isn't true. suny has not adopted the flagship approach and there is really no reason to assume this will change at any time in the future.</p>
<p>i think one of the great things about the suny system is that there are different campuses that appeal to different interests. albany and buffalo have their strengths and are the right places for certain students. same can be said for binghamton, geneseo, stony brook, etc.</p>