Booze not so bad but pot

Spoken as a parent that hopes to hell his kid always makes sane and self-interested choices with respect to partying, these “studies” are garbage, as they can’t eliminate correlation between overall attitudes towards studying and pot/alcohol use. In other words, what you want to show if you are anti booze or anti pot is that of a population of equally intentioned students, those that drink or smoke perform worse, but the study provides not a shred of evidence with respect to this. Especially the use of SAT as a proxy, since we know that measures status and parental education, not intelligence or intent of the student (at least not in large part). At least GPA would be a better measure of intent.

@MassDaD68 Assumes you are getting wasted on a school night, which if you are this evidences more that you don’t care much about your studies to begin with.

@OHMomof2

The study found a drop .44 for using pot and alcohol heavily, but only a drop of 0.07 for using alcohol heavily. If you assume no interaction term between pot and alcohol effects, then we can estimate alcohol accounts for 16% of the drop among those who used both. That leaves 84% attributable to pot use.

Smoking pot under 25 is not a great idea. Your brain continues to develop through age 25, and smoking pot can damage and alter it. Tons of articles about this in neuroscience journals recently. People who smoke a lot of pot under 25 have higher instances of schizophrenia and other brain abnormalities, personality disorders, depression, anxiety etc. Best to wait until it’s done growing. After 25, knock yourself out as far as I’m concerned. But yeah, you might want to wait on that particular habit and take a look at some of the new research.

OK, after having S1 come home for spring break and talking with him, I am retracting this. His two roommates who are daily users are skipping classes, breaking stuff, and will not be graduating this year. They can’t seem to get motivated enough to wash the dishes they use or take out the garbage. They haven’t looked for summer jobs. They seem to lack impulse control. These kids were good students freshman and sophomore years. Plus the place reeks.

IME, those two roommates have gone into heavy user territory rather than the majority of undergrad classmates I had who were able to partake mj and yet, do fine or even graduate with high honors.

Another thing to consider is something a MD friend reminded me of when we were discussing this very topic over dinner with other friends: the problematic behavioral/life issues of the heavy addict are also likely to be due to underlying problematic issues preceding the addiction. In short, the heavy addiction may have happened as a consequence of preceding problematic issues developing before they became heavy users.

That sounds about right. In the 70’s prices were $10-40/ounce. Today prices in Washington dispensaries average about $10/gram, which is $280/ounce.

@sherpa that’s called inflation my friend, the original poster was saying the increased quality nowadays means it should be 10x the price regardless of inflation

@Barksdale - Perhaps I should have given a more detailed analysis. The US Consumer Price Index currently stands at 244.2, up from the baseline of 100 established in 1982.

I’m not certain, but I’m going to guess you could still buy “Mexican dirt weed” for $10/oz or Colombian for $40/oz in 1982.

Adjusting for inflation would indicate the dime bag would now be $25/oz and the Columbian would be about $100/oz.

As noted above, current market prices are about $280/oz, or about 11X the inflation adjusted price of cheap weed from 35 years ago, thereby confirming @barrons’ hypothesis.

I hope that helped clear things up.

There are market forces at work beyond inflation here.

…and in 1982 a dime bag was far less than an ounce. Retail, anyway.

@sherpa noted, thank you for the clarification

I actually meant at today’s prices it should be a whole lot better in quality.