Brandeis v. BU

<p>Hello!</p>

<p>I recently was accepted off Brandeis waitlist. I have already submitted my deposit to BU but, am willing to lose it to attend Brandeis. Though I am having a hard time deciding. I have yet to receive my financial aid from Brandeis (Still need to submit one more item) but, Brandeis so I've read is a "need-blind" school so most of my need should be met.</p>

<p>I've received 34,000 from BU including 8500 in loans. The price I will have to pay for BU will be around $20,000 with an efc = 0.</p>

<p>Assuming that Brandeis only gives me as much as BU. Which is better? They are completely different schools but what about academics wise? Research opportunities? Activities? Intellectualism?</p>

<p>I'll be a chemistry (possibly biochem.) major in the fall.</p>

<p>Brandeis.
Not even close.</p>

<p>Have you visited both schools? BU is great in terms of getting to things in Boston. Getting around from Brandeis is tough if you don’t have a car.
I think I would rate Brandeis as more challenging, but it is also smaller - I think BU probably has better labs and perhaps more connections for research.
Both seem to have a lot of subgroups socially so you can doubtless find whatever you like. Brandeis is, perhaps, a bit more politically active.</p>

<p>I have the same dilemma! Classes seem better at Brandeis but the lack of diversity is scary.</p>

<p>I really love Boston. Absolutely find it fantastic and I know I’ll enjoy living there. But I don’t mind the suburban campus with a closely knit feel, community like. My first choice, Occidental College, seems to have that same feel as Brandeis which I think I’ll enjoy living there. Though Occidental is situated in LA :(. </p>

<p>Brandeis seems to have more professor-student relationships. More prestigious school but, I think a visit should secure my choice. I heard Brandeis campus, some of the buildings are in near “ruins”. Even so if Brandeis does offer me more money than BU I’m wondering if Boston and BU will be worth the extra ~10-15 thousand extra dollars.</p>

<p>Brandeis is better than BU</p>

<p>Even putting prestige aside (where Brandeis far exceeds BU), the two schools are extremely different from one another. To begin with BU is a large and impersonal urban school with no distinct campus of its own. In contrast, Brandeis combines a nurturing, small liberal arts college and world-class research university-with the smallest student body I believe (less than 800 in a class) of any top tier national research university. And that small student body is matched with high-powered professors who actually teach in small classes. As you can imagine, the research opportunities are tremendous. Plus by being very close to Boston but on its own suburban campus, its full of campus activities and gives you easy access to the city–the best of both worlds.</p>

<p>BU is a good university, but, as I’ve mentioned to others on CC, for undergraduate students, Brandeis is truly amazing. Its intellectual environment is comparable in many ways to its University Athletic Association sister school, U Chicago (perhaps no coincidence that the President of U Chicago is a Brandeis alum). Yet its students are down-to-earth, friendly and non-competitive with one another. FYI in a recent Forbes national college rankings survey, Brandeis was ranked 15th among research universities and 30th overall among all private univerities and LAC’s–a testament to its focus on undergraduate education. Larger schools, including some Ivies, were ranked much lower. </p>

<p>Despite its small size and relative youth, Brandeis’ alumni are very distinguished–to name just a few: Nobel Prize winner for chemistry Rod Mackinnon, Fields Medal winning physicist Edward Witten (often called “Einstein’s successor”), 3-time Pulitzer Prize winner Tom Friedman of the NY Times, The Earth is Flat etc; Mitch Albom of Tuesday’s with Morrie (about his Brandeis professor), the Creators/Producers of Friends; actress Debra Messing; Robert FX Sillerman (billionaire businessman–currently owner of American Idol and Graceland), Jeff Lurie, billionaire owner of the Philadelphia Eagles and Christy Hefner, former CEO of Playboy). Also, if you’re into social justice (Angela Davis and Abbie Hoffman are alums as well, I could go on) or theater/music/art, it’s a very exciting place to be.</p>

<p>With respect to the sciences, Brandeis is first rate with a spectacular new science center. You will no find any buildings in “ruins.” To the contrary, in addition to the new science cener, and the recent and fabulous student center and admissions building,there is a brand new humanities center being built Also, if you haven’t seen it, you should watch the interview on the Brandeis website with Greg Petsko, Professor of Biochem, who left MIT to come to Brandeis. He discusses his reasons as to why he found Brandeis to be, in his words, “a better place” to teach and for his students to learn. Here’s a link to the “video tour”: [url=<a href=“http://www.brandeis.edu/admissions/videotour/]Tour[/url”>http://www.brandeis.edu/admissions/videotour/]Tour[/url</a>]. Then, you may need to click through to the faculty interviews to find Petsko.</p>

<p>Also, with respect to the diversity concenern, Brandeis is very diverse undergraduate and graduate, with a strong international flavor. Brandeis is not a Jewish school. It is and has always been a secular institution. Although founded by the Jewish community in the spirit of other great private, secular schools (e.g. Protestant Harvard and Presbyterian Princeton), its student body is less than half Jewish and about 20-30% minorities and internationals (in fact the majority of The Brandeis International Business School is international students from many different countries).</p>

<p>Its total Jewish population far smaller than BU’s and the nature of its student body is very similar to other top schools you might not single out as “Jewish” because of their founding–e.g. Barnard, NYU and Penn Thse examples suggest that Brandeis is not unique in having a significant Jewish population. However, it is unique in providing a truly small and intellectually stimulating liberal arts college environment within a major research university</p>

<p>Good luck with your decision!</p>

<p>Thanks B77. Any other opinions from anyone?</p>

<p>Both are great schools but in the Boston area Brandeis is seen as the more serious/academic of the two. You will do well at either because they offer so many opportunities. BU is a big place, so just find your niche.</p>

<p>I would suggest Brandeis to be honest for many of the reasons B77 stated.</p>

<p>Though I am very serious when it comes to academic work what about fun? Are students actually happy there? Talking to a Brandeis alum. she said that she hated Brandeis for the first two years of her undergraduate education because she didn’t feel like she connected with anyone. Whereas when she went to a BU lecture during a gap year she really enjoyed it and was worried she made a wrong choice. She cited that the professors at Brandeis really make it what it is and that’s the reason she stayed to finish her four years.</p>

<p>You are all familiar with the phrase, “No fun makes … a dull boy/girl”. What do people do at Brandeis? Because it does seem at BU the large student body allows for more variety when it comes to activities, and it IS Boston right outside your door.</p>

<p>Also BU’s graduate school in chemistry is ranked higher than Brandeis. Not sure if that has any correlation with undergraduate education.</p>

<p>Could use some other opinions. </p>

<p>As far as I know, classes at Brandeis are very hard, a lot of people study severely and come out with mediocre grades.</p>

<p>I would go with Brandeis–but I’d make sure I got the financial aid package first.</p>

<p>Brandeis degree will be far more respected than one from BU.</p>

<p>Brandeis…</p>

<p>go to brandeis</p>

<p>Don’t assume you will get the same aid package from Brandeis. Need-blind they may be, but by now there may or may not be any unclaimed aid - and don’t lose your spot at BU until you know about finances at Brandeis.</p>

<p>Thank you everyone. Brandeis just got back to me with their FA. I received 100% of my need so I will be attending in the fall :).</p>

<p>Congrats you’re going to love it.
(from a 'deis alum)</p>