<p>I had always considered the Princeton Review's rankings to be worth more than others, as they were based on student responses. But where do they get that Brown is #4 on the Toughest to Get Into list, while Yale falls at #5? Is this at all credible?</p>
<p>Just looking at raw data, Yale had more applicants, a lower acceptance rate, and a higher SAT average. Brown is very difficult to get into, but I'd say that was some kind of slip up on the part of Princeton Review.</p>
<p>Yale beats Brown in almost every metric of selectivity.</p>
<p>Brown's admissions process can be a bit 'quirky', but it's not harder to get in.</p>
<p>Maybe they take "toughness of admission" to mean "unpredictability of admissions". Plus, remember that the rankings are based on what the students say.</p>
<p>The PR rankings are students rating their own schools. Because of a massive selection bias, etc., they really mean nothing.</p>
<p>Brown students may <em>think</em> it's tougher to get into, but it's really not.</p>
<p>wow are PR rankings really students rating their own schools? It's almost ridiculous then, that they even get published!</p>
<p>What's more ridiculous is that people buy what is eventually published... :P</p>
<p>Yale is the most selective university in the country; Brown isn't in the top ten. I think Cozmo reached the best conclusion here.</p>
<p>People forget that Yale's applicant number is slightly inflated, as the institution does not require SAT IIs if one submits the ACT, thus, when someone wants to throw an app to an Ivy 'just for kicks,' H and P aren't possible, but Y sure is!</p>
<p>Yale's acceptance rate was the lowest this year in Ivy history.</p>
<p>How is Yale the most selective when Harvard has a higher SAT range?</p>
<p>Acceptance rate isn't everything, Yale troll. Chicago is a good example of a selective school with a high acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Harvard does not have a higher SAT range than Yale. (Or does it? Point me to the stats if I'm wrong. According to collegeboard.com, they have the exact same SAT ranges. Yale has a higher ACT range by just 1 point. It's not really a significant difference.)</p>
<p>according to USNEWs, I think they have the same SAT range, but I only read the on-line scanned copy.</p>
<p>Okay, fair enough.</p>
<p>My mistake.</p>
<p>Brown may actually be more selective than Yale. The researcher looked at hard stats, not student opinion.</p>
<p>"Princeton University in New Jersey, which ranked No. 1 in student satisfaction with financial aid offerings, is listed second as the toughest school to which to gain admission, followed by Harvard, Brown and Yale universities. For that category, instead of student surveys, author Robert Franek said he looked at the school's admission rate, SAT entrance exams and high school applicants' class rankings." </p>
<p>"For that category, instead of student surveys, author Robert Franek said he looked at the school's admission rate, SAT entrance exams and high school applicants' class rankings"
Well, since Yale as a lower admissions rate, higher SAT scores, and more students ranked in the top 10% of their high school class, it's hard to see how using those statistics would result in Brown being more selective.</p>
<p>in my school at least, a higher percentage of yale applicants get in than brown applicants</p>
<p>That's nice and dandy but a higher percentage of applicants from my school got into Harvard than Rice. I don't see how anecdotal evidence matters.</p>
<p>It's the same methodology as the fallacious USNews rankings. </p>
<p>Yale is more selective than Brown. Maybe 85% of cross-admits will pick Yale over Brown. That means the really good students, the ones who got into both, go to Yale.</p>
<p>oh i'm not providing evidence, im just giving anecdote silly, i agree yale is more selective psh haukim, don't jump to conclusions =P.</p>