BROWN or DARTMOUTH

<p>I have been very fortunate to gain acceptance at both Brown and Dartmouth.</p>

<p>I aim to study economics and/or engineering</p>

<p>It would be helpful if any of you would be willing to give me some advice on the pros and the cons of both universities in relation with my interests and also just in general.</p>

<p>My interests:</p>

<p>-I do Mountaineering and Rock climbing so I would like to continue climbing during university.
-I play an Indian classical instrument and I compose fusion music with a band.
I therefore want to also pursue this interest at university.
-I like going out into the city, partying (who doesnt…haha)
-I have also been in the executive student council and thus am interested in joining student government.</p>

<p>I have visited both Dartmouth and Brown and I find both campuses very appealing. Although Dartmouth has a non-urban environment, it offers a lot of climbing. Does anyone know whether there are any rocks or climbing gyms near to Brown? On the other hand Brown has providence to offer.</p>

<p>I am really lost at the moment…please give me advice</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Brown</p>

<p>seriously, though Dartmouth is a good place, from what you say, Brown seems to be a better match for you.</p>

<p>First of all, congrats to you on your acceptances!</p>

<p>-I do Mountaineering and Rock climbing so I would like to continue climbing during university.</p>

<p>Dartmouth is obviously better on this one.</p>

<p>-I play an Indian classical instrument and I compose fusion music with a band.
I therefore want to also pursue this interest at university.</p>

<p>I don't know much about the music scene at Dartmouth, but it's great at Brown. Some links which might be helpful to you:
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Music/ensembles/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Music/ensembles/&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/Students/Original_Music_Group/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Students/Original_Music_Group/&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/web/gab3/view.php?id=44%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/web/gab3/view.php?id=44&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>-I like going out into the city, partying (who doesnt..haha)</p>

<p>Brown's definitely a better location for this. Providence isn't huge, but there are a couple of clubs, and of course, easy access to Boston (about 1 hour by bus or train, $13 for students, really easy). New York is also not too far away; people definitely go there for weekends.</p>

<p>-I have also been in the executive student council and thus am interested in joining student government.</p>

<p>A cool thing about Brown is that, in addition to student government, students also sit on a lot of powerful University committees.
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/students/UCS/index/home.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/students/UCS/index/home.htm&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/web/gab3/view.php?id=42%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/web/gab3/view.php?id=42&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/Students/UFB/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Students/UFB/index.html&lt;/a>
etc</p>

<p>Economics and Engineering are both excellent at Brown.</p>

<p>You should definitely come to ADOCH and whatever Dartmouth's admitted student day is, and check out both of the schools, get a feel for the campuses, and, most importantly, meet students. Hopefully one school will just jump out at you and make you feel like you belong.</p>

<p>Brown has an Outing club that goes to a climbing gym every sunday night.</p>

<p>I know some members of the Brown Outing Club who you could chat with if that helps. I think they go to the Rhode Island Rock Gym on Sunday nights. The Rock gym is awesome.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.rhodeislandrockgym.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.rhodeislandrockgym.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Send me an email and I'll hook you up.</p>

<p>i've got a brother at dartmouth, and have been a student at brown (for undergrad and med school) for six years. both are great places, with different cultures and strengths
if going out in the city is of any importance to you, dartmouth probably isn't your place though--it is very isolated, the high study abroad rate is mostly due to people going stir crazy (or so i hear)</p>

<p>Thanks so much for your quick response and the time you have put in to responding to each of my questions.</p>

<p>Unfortunatelly I will not be able to visit either of the colleges before the college decision deadline as I'm living in The Netherlands and have
the IB examination in may.</p>

<p>Chatting with you guys is therefore especially instructive and important.</p>

<p>Ciao</p>

<p>the high study abroad rate is mostly due to people going stir crazy (or so i hear)
haha is this an april fools comment...</p>

<p>i would choose dartmouth, but im kind of biased because it was my number one. didnt get in, but im going to columbia though</p>

<p>here is a video of the dartmouth campus:
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Enews/releases/2003/12/09.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases/2003/12/09.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Have you looked through the course offerings at both schools, how do you feel about them? Dartmouth has gov't study abroad program in both London, DC, and at Oxford does that interest you.
<a href="http://rockefeller.dartmouth.edu/students/academics/oxford.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://rockefeller.dartmouth.edu/students/academics/oxford.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>You can do a number of internships through the rockefeller center and minor in Public policy. Is this something you are interested in?</p>

<p><a href="http://rockefeller.dartmouth.edu/students/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://rockefeller.dartmouth.edu/students/index.html&lt;/a>
and of course you are able to join student government, many oppurtunities are avaliable</p>

<p>dartmouth is also famous along with princeton for putting total emphasis on its undergraduate studies. grad school students are not the top priority of the school</p>

<p>also, pretty much everyone who goes to dartmouth ends of loving it. i havent heard of anyone say they had a bad experiance there</p>

<p>example :<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=100648&highlight=dartmouth%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=100648&highlight=dartmouth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"dartmouth is also famous along with princeton for putting total emphasis on its undergraduate studies. grad school students are not the top priority of the school"</p>

<p>This is true of Brown as well. Definitely an advantage at all three schools!</p>

<p>Thanks alot, the posts are very helpfull</p>

<p>I'd say Brown. Providence offers many things that will not be the case in Hanover like clubs, restaurants, proximity to Boston. Also, Dartmouth's social scene has historically been quite influenced by fraternities. </p>

<p>I don't know about classical Indian instruments specifically but Brown has a South Asian Student Association which puts on consistently sold out dance and musical routines which are really quite amazing and the South Asian community at Brown is a pretty strong one.</p>

<p>If you are really and truly committed to rock climbing and mountaineering you can't get much better than Dartmouth for it.</p>

<p>Both schools prioritize undergraduate teaching.</p>

<p>Really, it should come down to
1. Core v. Distribution Requirements
2. Rural v. Sorta urban</p>

<p>Study abroad is quite easy at both schools although Dartmouth has the D-Plan. Dart may also require you spend soph summer on campus [they used to, I dont know if they still do]</p>

<p>Yeah, we still have Sophomore Summer, though most students end up finding it their most favorite term on campus...</p>

<p>Of course I'm gonna say go to Brown on this thread, because this is the Brown thread...and if you posted the "BROWN OR DARTMOUTH" discussion on the Dartmouth thread, then you will probably be told to go to Dartmouth. I say visit both schools again, come to ADOCH and whatever Dartmouth does, and then decide</p>

<p>Another thing to decide is whether Dart's engineering school is for you. I'm pretty sure that their program is slightly different in that the degree you get is actually a BA, not a BSE (almost positive, someone back me up). I personally love Dart's environment and D-Plan and energy, but I'm not sure how I would fare in a competitive environment in engineering without a BSE (I'm also considering engineering). I think I recall that you can go for 5 years and get a BA and a BSE, but you need to decide whether you want to do that. I have not visited Brown so I don't feel that I'm qualified to speak about its campus, but Dart's is awesome and you will definitely have opportunities in climbing, student government, and music as well. Good luck making that decision!</p>

<p>JTC is right. If you want to be an actual engineer (like work for Boeing), then Dartmouth isn't the best place. But if you simply want to major in it and get a job in finance or go to grad school, then Dartmouth is great. Anyway I had this choice and it was the hardest I've ever had to make. I chose Dartmouth but could have easily chosen Brown. Regardless, its an awesome problem to have.</p>

<p>apruisken </p>

<p>One argument in favor of brown is that you can very easily double major in economics and engineering. This would be extremely difficult at Dartmouth. Brown's lack of a core is better if you want to pursue both.</p>

<p>I would clarify hyperpuritan's statement by saying that in order to get an ScB and an AB at Brown, you are required to stay for five years. The I believe the engineering degrees are ScB, and therefore you could not double-concentrate with economics without staying an extra year.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.engin.brown.edu/undergrad/handbook/EUP_05-06_V2.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.engin.brown.edu/undergrad/handbook/EUP_05-06_V2.pdf&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Economics/undergraduate.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Economics/undergraduate.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Something else you might want to check out if you're interested in both but want to graduate in 4 years:
<a href="http://coe.brown.edu/concentration/entrepreneurship.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://coe.brown.edu/concentration/entrepreneurship.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Hey I'm actually also debating between Brown and Dartmouth!
Does anyone know anything about the astrophysics programs as either?</p>

<p>you can learn more about astrophysics on the physics homepage
<a href="http://www.physics.brown.edu/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.physics.brown.edu/&lt;/a> it's a small, but cool group of people
there are several particle astrophysicists as well as folks who measure cosmic background and study the big bang</p>

<p>brown also has several, supercool observatories, including Ladd which is ~ 115 years old
<a href="http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/commonpages/ladd/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/commonpages/ladd/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>