<p>Conerning a pre-med education which of the preordained colleges would be the best in terms of advancing into a medical school?</p>
<p>Brown does not have a pre-med program, per se. The school does not have any pre-professional schools; they are primarily focused on undergrad. Brown has graduate programs, as it is a university, and they vary, and are comparatively small. They have the PLME (Program in Liberal Medical Education), which is highly selective, and is an eight-year undergrad/med school combination. You need to apply to that program separately from the rest of the University. I think that if you are accepted you are not bound to the program; you can leave it and be a regular Brown student. I don’t know if there are transfers into the program.</p>
<p>Of course Brown has pre-med; every school has pre-med!</p>
<p>Brown has a pre-med program in that it offers the courses needed for someone planning to go to medical school. One does not major (or concentrate) in “pre-med”; you take the needed courses and concentrate in whatever you want – bio, English, Classics. There is a pre-med counseling program to advise pre-med students.</p>
<p>As for the OP question: I cannot imagine, under any circumstances, that either school has a “better” program. Both Brown and UPenn are top quality schools that have many students taking pre-med classes. Honestly, you are splitting hairs if you are trying to determine which of the 2 schools is “better” – they are both excellent schools. Are the 2 schools different? Yes, I’m sure they are. And one might be “better” for you, based on location, size, fit, etc. Only you can figure that out.</p>
<p>And preordained is the wrong word to use.</p>
<p>Visit both. Go for “fit.”</p>
<p>Also, get into both. It’s no mean feat!</p>
<p>brown students do extremely well with med school admissions (always within the top five in country in med school placement) and i think this is for two reasons</p>
<ol>
<li>brown pre-selects smart, interesting, highly motivated people</li>
<li>brown helps these people stand out – the open curriculum causes each student to do something unique with their education while encouraging him (or her) to pursue the things he (or she) is most passionate about</li>
</ol>
<p>Thanks for all the help. </p>
<p>Seeing that I am currently a Freshman in a public High School, what would I have to do to theoretically get into either of these schools. Currently I’m taking the maximum course load with a 4.0 unweighted and I’m planning to continue this trend through-out the remainder of high school/subsequent summers. I have club soccer with many awards/trophies and cycling also with awards and medals. I’m a SIT council and Med. Club member(Eventually will become president). Currently I’m working with my principle and cycling coordinator to create a Cycling Team at my school. Class president is also in my future, hopefully. I’ve volunteered at the local VA for 50hours and counting, including a weekly-biweekly one vs one session with the head of the necropsy division(aka Morgue) in which we dissect particular body parts and perform documented autopsies. I’m also in the works of associating with researchers from the local university, Stanford.</p>
<p>What else do I need to start doing to be accepted into a college of this caliber?</p>
<p>you seem to be on one helluva track, as a freshman…</p>
<p>the only thing I can think of is to stay on top of your classes (I’m sure you’re a brilliant kid, but just be aware that courses get harder as you continue through high school)</p>
<p>also, just remember to enjoy your four years (or at least the first two)! don’t structure your entire schedule and summer vacations purely on college. when it comes time to write those apps, you’ll always find that you can’t write about everything you do (the things you’re doing now are more than enough for one person)</p>
<p>Thanks for all your advice.</p>
<p>alright decisions you’re one hell of a liar</p>
<p>Are you serious?</p>
<p>Would you please mind explaining yourself?</p>
<p>Jesus christ “Decisions…”. I hate 4.0 kids like you who think they are hot stuff. My Yale supplement was about how naive and harmful that attitude is and how silly the American schooling system is (and I got in). Maybe if kids realized that doing 10,000 hours of community service just to get into college is pointless they would have a better shot of getting into college. I would suggest pushing aside your artificial visions of grandeur as President/Emperor of your school and instead find things that actually motivate/interest you.</p>
<p>LIKE MED CLUB, CYCLING, SOCCER, and MEDICINE?</p>
<p>“10,000 hours of community service just to get into college” is pointless, I agree. But what about 10,000 hours of community service to gain experience in a prospective occupation while improving the lives those in need. It is unfortunate that those people who only volunteer for a college’s sake have given people this misconception for all those who volunteer. </p>
<p>Who are you to judge whether what I do truly motivates me? Yes I’ll admit that some actions (Class President, SIT Council) are really only my application, however I’m am truly passionate about everything else I mentioned within the above statement. I understand the stereotype you have fallaciously given me, and if you want to believe that is who I am then so be it. But before you start to reprimand me for a “harmful/naive” attitude, why don’t you look at how naive and harmful it is to judge someone simply on a passage they wrote on an online thread?</p>
<p>However, I do appreciate your honesty.</p>
<p>To each his own, that’s what I like to say…</p>
<p>You people honestly believe that Decisions is being honest? There is no way he is being truthful, one vs one session? what the hell does that even mean? lol</p>
<p>I think the most important issue here is that Decisions is a Freshman… in high school. Decisions really shouldn’t be worrying about college at this stage. If you continue to stress at this early date, you’ll soon be bogged down by a number of crippling neuroses, and we wouldn’t want that to happen. Also, when you file your essays, try not to sound so much like Martin Prince.</p>
<p>----“There is no way he is being truthful, one vs one session? what the hell does that even mean?”----</p>
<p>He is on one side of the table, and I am on the other. Therefore, one on one.</p>
<p>lets jsut be clear here, ppl always tell me i should do what interests me and not wat colleges want…well this is wat intrests me:</p>
<p>-hanging with freinds at the movies
-going on AIM
-relazxng
-sleeping
-doing as little work as possible</p>
<p>does that mean I should go to a community college or should I force myself to join all the school honor societies and do all that extra curric stuff? just becuase i do not enjoy the things colleges expect doesnt mean i shouldnt do them…lets be honest here</p>
<p>There are plenty of good colleges that will accept you based on your SAT/ACT scores and grades. You probably won’t get into the Ivies or top LACs without the ECs. But there’s nothing wrong with going to a state university. So, absolutely continue your current activities. Just don’t bemoan it senior year when you realize that you’ve scored 2370 on the SAT and you want to go to an Ivy. But you shouldn’t force yourself to join a bunch of clubs just for your college application. Colleges can usually see right through that.</p>