Brown's professors are NOT second to its peers

<p>Think about it. Brown spends 1/3 of the research money that schools like Chicago or Harvard spend in a given year. It also used to have 1/4th as many professors compared to prestigious graduate school oriented schools like the aforementioned. </p>

<p>Still, we have a homegrown Nobel laureate, while Duke or Michigan has absolutely none such, and we have a homegrown Sakurai prize winner this year. We have a homegrown Pulitzer prize winner, and also a homegrown Fields medalist in the mathematics faculty.</p>

<p>What else do you need for a university-college? The only shortcoming for the faculty is that there are too FEW of these people. Which isn’t really necessary – we do top research, but in less areas as huge schools do. </p>

<p>In the end, our school has elite professors, elite students, and full stop. If you want to be surrounded by many Leon Coopers or Gordon Woods, go to Chicago or Harvard.</p>

<p>Part of the difference is that Brown’s graduate school is a good deal smaller than others’.</p>

<p>Size might be part of the problem but it is also difficult to keep the top faculty.
If Harvard makes an offer at the full professor level to a star Brown faculty member they
are likely to make that move. It can happen in the other direction but it is a rare event.</p>

<p>Who is the homegrown Fields medalist?</p>

<p>is David Mumford. He came from Harvard.</p>

<p>Besides, as long as our Star Professors’ specific research areas are not harmed, it does not matter even if Chicago or Harvard makes the offer; as I said, we have a small research faculty, but we also have top areas of research. The graduate school students, in relation to the research faculty, doesn’t have to be as high-quality as the faculty members themselves, as long as the faculty members can do their research. You said it is rare that professors come to Brown from large prestigious research institutions, but I’ve seen some that do, especially assistant professors that are starting to make their mark. One prominent philosopher (and Brown’s philosophy department is one of the top in the world), Charles Larmore, came from the University of Chicago Law School after having also taught at Columbia for more than 10 years. He is considered on of the top five political philosophers in the world.</p>

<p>Brown alumni that are preeminent scholars also seek to be Brown professors a lot. Both David Weil (pioneer in the field of growth economics; Brown’s graduate program in growth economics was ranked 6th by the US News rankings in 2010) and Kenneth Miller are Brown faculty who used to teach at Harvard. Mark Bear, another Brown alumnus, was headed the Brain Science Lab at MIT for seventeen years before returning to Brown. Ivo Welch (a Ph.D from Chicago) came from Yale Business School in 2006. </p>

<p>On the other direction, THAT is actually rarer. Brown professors are in fact unlikely to move to other schools, except when their specific area of research is being neglected. Lars Onsager was the only notable case, most of whose Nobel winning research was done at Brown. But he won the prize while he was at Yale. But if their area of research is being kept lively alive, even star faculty wouldn’t budge from Brown. Examples are Glenn Loury, David Weil, and most notably, Leon Cooper, who has been with us for over thirty years, who has even burgeoned outside of his area in particle physics toward research in neuroscience. </p>

<p>Part of the reason that we can keep our own is because we have an excessive amount of money to keep those professors. Berkeley has a lower endowment than us. The problem is whether the Brown administration is at all willing to keep the research going. Brown is stubborn when it comes to its “educational philosophy” of balancing undergraduate teaching and research, in my opinion. Recently, however, the trend to keeping research alive is becoming stronger, thanks to Ruth Simmons’ Plan for Academic Enrichment. Perhaps dangerously stronger, according to those wary to protect Brown’s commitment to teaching. But those two are not antithetical, as Ruth Simmons is proving now.</p>

<p>And you need to remember that our faculty are becoming better by the years, both the new ones and the oldies. The way I (humbly) see it, I’m confident that a few faculty members dedicated to Brown will win the Nobel Prize in 10 years or so.</p>

<p>Oh, and David Mumford is also a homegrown Wolf Prize winner, which is a prize only second to the Fields Prize when it comes to mathematics, and second to the Nobel Prize when it comes to chemistry or physics.</p>

<p>Verification that David Mumford won the Fields Medal at Brown : he was an adjunct faculty member at Harvard until 1964, moving to Brown. He won the Fields Medal in 1974.</p>

<p>In addition…three of our economics faculties’ papers have been importantly cited in the main text, for the Bank of Sweden prize’s papers on their scientific background in the past 5 years.</p>

<p>Am I missing something but I do not see Mumford at Brown until 1996.
The move to Brown makes sense to me because of his change in interests
but to describe him as homegrown seems a little strange. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.dam.brown.edu/people/mumford/vita06.pdf[/url]”>http://www.dam.brown.edu/people/mumford/vita06.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>online pass- I do not disagree that Brown has outstanding professors. I did not say that
Brown does not hire faculty from large prestigious research institutions. I did imply that Brown is likely to lose more top faculty at full professor level than it gains.
Mumford is an example that goes the other way and that move makes perfect sense to me.</p>

<p>Joe Harris and Benedict Gross were examples moving the other way.
Both were in the math department as young faculty. Both brilliant and both moved
to Harvard. This was not due to neglect by Brown but Harvard was clearly a natural choice for both of them. </p>

<p>This does not mean that Brown does not hire very talented senior faculty. It clearly does.
I am just suggesting that at the very very top it is hard for Brown to compete
and it does as well as many other fine institutions.</p>

<p>I think the validity of the thread title depends on what schools you consider to be Brown’s “peers.”</p>

<p>onlinepass- I did not know that Mark Bear was returning to Brown. Is that true?
He was at Brown until 2003 and I guess that he now holds an adjunct position but
I thought that he moved to MIT in 2003. Is he back teaching at Brown?</p>

<p>I should stress that I did not say that Brown does not try to hire these people and it
does succeed sometimes. Your example of Ivo Welch is a good one who moved to
Brown when his partner Lily Qiu finished her PhD at Yale. That seems like a good move
but I would have been surprised if he had made that move in other circumstances.</p>

<p>Leon Cooper is of course a star!</p>

<p>heres the real deal kiddos. Ive attended three universities of differing prestige throughout my college career and each one had great professirs and bad ones. It varies from person to person and dept to dept. And not all nobel laureates can teach. The one edge brown has is that being an undergrad focused instituttion it may attract more profs interested in teaching / who like to teach</p>

<p>Is Brown really focused on undergrads? I would be surprised if Brown was
as focused on undergrads as a LAC.</p>