<p>@Sanguinee and TheBombingRange, my dad, a British-trained physician scientist, told me that the ivies provide you with the confidence and BS factors, and the ‘networking’ advantage. Whether or not one can only get high quality education at the ivies is debatable. Successful physicians who make it without going to the ivies generally do it with real qualities and hardwork and this can be done!</p>
<p>I agree with Sanguinee and patrickstarr</p>
<p>Cutting edge research, Resources they have readily available
Access to top professors, Student to faculty ratio
Connections & Alumni network, Confidence</p>
<p>There have been several articles published about studies done on Ivy League graduates vs. non-Ivy League graduates. They generally find that what sets these students apart, if anything, is their ambition and motivation. However, when you compare students who got INTO these top schools, but chose to go somewhere else, vs. those who chose to go to the top schools, there’s virtually no difference.</p>
<p>What matters more is what you do in undergrad and personality characteristics, as well as where you want to work. Some top firms are reliant upon impressing clients in order to get them. For example, management consultant firms: if you’re running a business and you had to pick a fresh-out-of-undergrad 23-year-old working their first real job ever to give you suggestions about how to fix your business, would you pick a Wharton or Columbia grad or would you want a grad from Kentucky State? These firms assume that their clients will want Ivy and other top grads and thus only recruit at those schools, although grads from other places can get jobs there, they just have to find out about consulting on their own.</p>
<p>However, let’s say that you want to be a nurse. IMO, if you want to be a nurse, paying $50,000 a year to go to a top school is ill-advised against going to your local public university and earning a nursing degree. Hospitals don’t care about whether you got your nursing degree at some top school that offers nursing or Kentucky State; they care that you 1) have your license and 2) know how to do the stuff you say you do and 3) about your beside manner.</p>
<p>These top schools have more resources, I will say that. I found that out after coming to Columbia – there’s money everywhere, from the landscaping of the campus to the design of the dorms to the research materials you can get. Alumni networks are also useful.</p>
<p>@KLM interesting comments and I agree with everyting you said. You mentioned about nursing, does the same hold for medicine? is it worth spending big bucks for a pre-med in Ivy as opposed to investing everything for the Med college? </p>
<p>My son just got admission to Caltech (though not Ivy, I think equally prestigious) and we have been debating this for the last two days. Caltech will cost us a fortune.</p>
<p>matrix, congrats on Caltech! I agree it’s equally prestigious to Ivy. Is this the BS or BS/MD program? DS14’s friend who is a senior this year is in the same situation. He got accepted to Caltech (regular BS, no financial aid or scholarship) and University of Texas, Dallas (with full scholarship). He has just made the decision to go to Texas.</p>
<p>"Successful physicians who make it without going to the ivies generally do it with real qualities and hardwork and this can be done! "</p>
<p>A large percentage of doctors in US (I am guessing 90+ percent if not much higher) have not gone to an Ivy for undergrad.</p>
<p>Just got accepted into Brooklyn BA/MD! !</p>
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<p>@newdoc20202021, congrats. I remember you said you would be very selective. So, is the Brooklyn BA/MD program good enough for you to accept the offer?</p>
<p>If I don’t get into BU then yes</p>
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<p>smart move… accepting texas as opposed to caltech. if the ultimate goal is to do engineering and have a career in engineering, then yes caltech is good. But if the goal is to go to med school, caltech banner wont help. In fact, if the gpa is not good, then that will work to the child’s disadvantage.
we applied to dual degree programs and a back up engg that is ranked in the top 3 in the nation and got into this back up. So if we dont get into these dual degree programs in some colleges, say for example, case, then why waste time in case? That’s my perspective.
either go to a good bs md program or do undergrad in a decent college and avoid heavy loans.
luckily so far we have 3 bs md admissions in hand while we are still waiting to hear from more colleges. if we did not have this bs md option, we would have gone for the engg undergrad.</p>
<p>congrats newdoc!</p>
<p>Does any body know when Rice/Baylor interview calls go out and what date was the interview in the previous years?</p>
<p>@matrix007</p>
<p>First congrats to you and your son on Caltech. Caltech is one of the best school (Even better than some Ivy)</p>
<p>Med school name matters? Yes and Mostly No. It depends on what your son wants to do after med.</p>
<p>Just accepted to Brooklyn College/SUNY Downstate BA/MD!!! I’m hoping to get Macaulay Honors College with that so I get full tuition and the laptop. Still waiting for other programs to come in, but just as fallpsat said, my backup is an engineering school that gave me full tuition as well. </p>
<p>@fallpsat, what are the three programs your son was accepted to? And may I ask which top 3 engineering school? UC Berkely? MIT?</p>
<p>@TheBombingRange, congrats!</p>
<p>I also got in to Brooklyn BA-MD!</p>
<p>Congrats to everybody! Maybe I will see you there next year? You guys all applied to Macaulay, right? We will hear from them on Friday…</p>
<p>Congrats newyork BAMD admits!</p>
<p>@TheBombingRange, the Brooklyn program is only open to residents of New York?</p>
<p>Macaulay is only open to NY</p>
<p>@sbmhhs @TheBombingRange
Maybe I’ll see you guys next year at Brooklyn. When were your interviews btw? </p>
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