*** BS/MD Results For Class Of 2014 ***

<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown):2400, single sitting
ACT:
SAT II: 790 (Bio-M), 800 (Math II), 800 (USH), 800(Chem)
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):4.67
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Does not rank
AP (some self-studied):Bio(5), Chem(4), Stats(5), Env. Sci(5), English Lang &Comp (5), Calc BC (5), USH(5)
IB (place score in parenthesis):
Senior Year Course Load: Multi, H. English, AP Econ Macro, AP Psych, AP Bio, AP Chem
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):National AP Scholar, USABO semis, published DNA data, National Latin Exam
Subjective:
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): NHS(President), Research Club (President), FPA, Science League, Math League, Columbia SHP, Public speaking club (leader)
Job/Work Experience: SAT Tutor
Volunteer/Community service: EMT-B on first aid squad, hospital volunteer
Summer Activities: EMT-B Course, shadowing docs., Mol. Bio research at Rutgers
Essays: Nothing spectacular, solid 7’s
Teacher Recommendation: Waived right. But bio teacher and I really hit it off in hs, probs a 9. Latin teacher and I were solid- prob 6-7
Counselor Rec: Solid again not sure waived right - 6-7
Additional Rec:</p>

<p>Other
State (if domestic applicant): NJ
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender:M
Income Bracket:Not really sure…</p>

<p>Accepted: Princeton (EA), TCNJ/RU Newark-NJMS, RPI-AMC, PSU 6 yr, GWU (regular undergrad), RU (full ride), Drexel (UG w/interview ), Villanova (UG), U-Miami (UG no interview), Boston U (UG w/interview)
Waitlisted: Harvard, Duke, Northwestern (No interview)
Rejected: Brown, Penn, U Miami Med (No Interview), Boston U Med (Interview), Drexel Med,
Reflection: College is really random. I got into Princeton early and initially thought I would go there, but in terms of practicality TCNJ-NJMS appeared to be both financially cheaper and more secure for my future. Really convey your passion for medicine in your essay and also talk about why you specifically want to go to that med school. Interviews tend to be lax; simply you need to verbalize your enthusiasm for medicine and convey your passion. Be enthusiastic and yourself and it’s not too bad. Med programs typically never asked me about ethics questions but more so why I want to go into medicine, hobbies/interests, why i want to go to that specific med school. Prep answers ahead of time and research the schools so you know what you’re talking about.</p>

<p>General Comments: Don’t be driven by getting into the best colleges. Find what you love in high school and pursue that and then success will come chasing after you. For me it was biology. I did competitions and even extended it to research to really show my passion. Whatever it is find something you love and pursue it! Also, I dont think there is a value in joining an astronomical number of clubs. Colleges would rather see much dedication to one area and not scattered activities. I’m super excited. Anyone with questions feel free to PM me.</p>

<p>Do you have to be accepted by the school before you apply to the program?</p>

<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown):2250-ish, two sittings, I don’t really remember anymore
ACT:35, single sitting
SAT II: 790 (Bio-M), 770 (Math II), 800 (Chem)
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):4.00 (school does not weight)
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 1/85
APs at the time of application: My school offered zero AP’s, so these were self-studied from an advanced class in school or taken online through the state: Bio(5), Chem(4), Stats(5), Calc AB (5)
IB (place score in parenthesis): School did not offer IB
Senior Year Course Load: Adv. Lit, AP Physics B online, Adv. Gov, Sociology, Senior Project, Spanish IV
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):National AP Scholar, National Merit Scholar
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): HOSA (first state president, school pres and former VP), FBLA (pres, former VP), NHS, Quizbowl (captain), Sci Oly, jazz band (soloist on bass guitar). I got 30+ state awards in FBLA and got other state awards in oratory, HOSA, Sci-Oly, and research
Job/Work Experience: Certified Nursing Assistant, research assistant in nearby hospital in breast cancer metabolism and drug targets
Volunteer/Community service: Hospital volunteer
Summer Activities: U Iowa research in nanochem and enzymes, paid research internship in local hospital (see above), Europe music tour for honors band/choir chosen from the Midwest
Essays: In the range of 6’s to 8’s, pretty good overall - my writing is a strength. My HPME and Emory scholarship essays were probably my best work though (it paid off), with UPenn the worst
Teacher Recommendation: Waived right, but iffy to alright - teachers really never wrote recs for any students or schools other than nearby community colleges or nearby state schools, much less for Ivies or BS/MD’s (I think I was the first in my school’s long history to apply to a BS/MD), but the teachers and I got along really well and I’ve even been to DC on a week-long trip with my bio teacher for HOSA
Counselor Rec: Probably pretty patchy, she’s younger and doesn’t have much experience with upper-level schools and programs - 4 to 5, we weren’t close but she knew of my curriculum, activities, and reputation with the teachers I guess
Additional Rec: Head of my most recent lab, probably a 7, he was a cool guy</p>

<p>Other
State (if domestic applicant):
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Public, small, and semi-rural
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender:F
Income Bracket: I’ll not answer</p>

<p>Accepted: Northwestern HPME, Emory (full tuition scholarship), Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Washington U St. Louis, U of Minnesota (full scholarship), U of Iowa (biggest scholarship offered), Boston University (half-tuition scholarship)
Waitlisted: Harvard, Columbia
Rejected: Brown and PLME, Penn, Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Rice/Baylor BS-MD (no interview but admitted to Rice), Boston U SMED (no interview), </p>

<p>Reflection: Luck. That is all. I was initially so sad when I didn’t get an interview for BU SMED and thought all my chances were blown, but then I somehow got an interview and acceptance to NU HPME. You just never know. I had a tough choice deciding between NU HPME and the full scholarship to Emory, but I calculated it this way: Emory scholarship was worth around $170,000. A year of saved money at NU is about $65,000, plus the extra year of work if I did HPME in 7 years would be, on an MD salary, at least $100,000 if not more. Then, the saved year of life outside school, effort to study for the MCAT, and increased opportunity without having to worry about med school admissions. Total, HPME money-wise and opportunity-wise was equal or more than Emory and their scholarship for me. Don’t forget - scholarships are quick money saved, but don’t just turn down a program because of price - factor in everything, because long-term, things could turn out very differently, as I decided. When writing essays, don’t be the typical BS/MD applicant - stand out. Do something weird, or creative, or independent! I come from a small school in the middle of cornfields, and my high school literally only has two hallways. No AP’s, and I honestly have no idea what an IB is still. Yet taking initiative to do my own independent research project in public health, helping to kick-start HOSA in my state and being the first state president, and going above and beyond my school’s meager curriculum offerings caused some colleges to like me, but not others. Luck.</p>

<p>General Comments: Don’t take the application process overly-seriously. Have fun with your essays, put some genuine thoughts and passion and creativity behind them, and the readers of them will have fun, too. Have a life your senior year, not just a college admissions life. As it has been said, don’t join clubs just because you think they’ll look good on your resume. I totally should not have been in jazz band (almost daily rehearsals and missing days upon days of schools for competitions was very tough on my schedule) but I loved playing jazz bass guitar, soloing, and jamming out with some of my best friends, so I did it. One of the things that made me as an applicant so distinctive was being a CNA. We are at the bottom of the totem pole in medicine - I did everything. Scrubbing toilets in a mental facility for convicted felons, feeding, dressing, showering, toileting, and changing the Depends of residents in nursing homes were just a few of the things I did as a CNA. Not a lot of BS/MD applicants, as far as I can tell, get their CNA. It really is tough, rough work, and I really respect the men and women who make it their profession. When I worked as a CNA my junior year, it really showed me how much I loved making that patient-caretaker relationship and gave me insight into the doctor-healthcare team relationship that I then was able to talk about during my HPME interview. Seriously. I suggest doing something that is unusual, not run-of-the-mill BS/MD stuff like shadowing or volunteering, which are also cool BTW. Then, you have something awesome to talk about and write about.
Seriously, I have no idea how I got into HPME. Did they pick me for personality or… because, while I had research experience and higher test scores, I in no way had the experiences or coursework that some of the other interviewees had. Programs and schools will, to an extent, consider your background. A kid from NYC will probably have easier access to research, internships, and other activities than, say, one living on a ranch in the middle of Montana. Even I had to drive 3 hours, 180 miles round-trip every day to get to my research internship, and I live in a large-ish town. On paper, I don’t have the stats of other HPME’s, but I guess my essays and interviews went well.</p>

<p>Hey guys
I’m currently a rising high school senior and am very interested in applying to a few accelerated premed programs (though not the crazy ones like in Brown). I just wanted to know what my chances are and how I could improve?
GPA - 3.95
Rank - Top 5-10%
SAT - 2250 Reading and Math (800 Math, 660 Reading, 790 Writing) - Will take it again and get at least 700 Reading guaranteed (I took the SAT last March and I’ve significantly improved this summer)
SAT II - Physics 760, US History 750, Math (1) 730, Biology (M) 740 --> planning on taking Math 2
AP’s - World History (4), Biology (4), US History (5), Physics B (5), Psychics C Mechanics (4).
During Senior year I’ll take AP Calc (AB and BC), AP Stats, and AP Lit</p>

<p>Extra Curriculars:
In-School -
ModelUN,
Mock Trial,
Forensics,
Model Congress,
SGA,
Science Olympiad,
and some sports activities
(in all of these activities I’ll have a leadership positions starting senior year)
I’m also starting a combined Debate and Public Speaking Club as soon as the school year starts</p>

<p>Outside of School -
Volunteer at 2 hospitals, each with 100+ hours,
Shadow 2 doctors in their private practices, one’s a cardiologist and the other a pediatrician (each of them are willing to give a good rec letter)
Shadow a Lab diagnostician
Member of the Youth Committee in my local community center (this committee serves over 1000 underprivileged youth a year with various events and programs), with 250+ hours
Also a teacher at the weekend school for my local community center (I teach children language and religion studies)
Starting an EMT course this fall, probably wont be state certified until January
I also did a 6 week summer program at Carnegie Mellon University after receiving the William Elliot Scholarship (covered around 10k$ in costs)</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Hi, I just heard that I must visit the college before I can apply the medical combine program. Since you are very expert and experienced with these programs, can you tell me that if I can apply these bs/md programs without visiting the schools first. Thank you so much!</p>

<p>Hi,
I was wondering what my chances are for programs on the level of Pitt, Rice/Baylor, Northwestern, REMS, etc. with these stats. I am currently a Junior.</p>

<p>GPA: 3.98 UW, lots of AP’s school doesn’t do weighted
Rank: Top 1%
SAT: 2300 (770 Math, 760 Reading, 770 Writing)
SAT II: Math-800, Chem-800, World History-800
AP Scores: Calc AB and BC: 5, Chem: 5, Comp Sci: 5, World History: 5
Taking Bio, Psych, Physics, US History, and Lang this year.
Will take Spanish and possibly Environmental Science in senior year.</p>

<p>Extracurriculars:
Math team since 5th grade, very involved, have won several awards regional and national (AIME qualifier, ARML Team member, etc.), VP, will be President next year
Science Bowl President (Won 3rd at nationals a few years ago)
Science Olympiad
Knowledge Bowl
Key Club</p>

<p>Outside of School:
Volunteering at Local Hospital (will have around 200 hours by time of application)
Will have 40 hours of Doctor Shadowing by end of this year
Founded a club to teach Computer Science to middle schoolers
Run local elementary school math club
Attended highly competitive math program in 9th grade at University of Washington
Did a research internship in Microbiology last summer at OSU</p>

<p>Do I have good chances? Do I need a better SAT score? Any feedback greatly appreciated. Thanks!</p>

<p>@QQQ1997, you do NOT have to visit the schools first before applying to their BS/MD program. My daughter did not visit the school until she came for the interview (and was finally accepted). Good luck.</p>

<p>@Adit98, your chance is very good.
If you feel like taking the SAT again for a better score, then by all means, go for it, but I don’t think it’s a must.
Your accomplishments are impressive. All you need now are some good essays and eventually impress them during your interviews. Make them feel your passion and compassion.
Good luck.</p>