*** BS/MD Results for Class of 2012 ***

Pre-Med & Medical School Multiple Degree Programs
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<p>It's been a long year but we've almost made it to April 1st, when all decisions should be out. </p>

<p>To help out future classes applying to BS/MD programs, I thought we should have a consolidated stats/results thread (<strong><em>but PLEASE do not post until you have all of your results, that way others dont have to scroll through multiple pages to find out where you were ultimately accepted</em></strong>).</p>

<p>For reference, here is the interview notification/discussion thread for this year: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/multiple-degree-programs/1266847-bs-md-interview-notification-class-2012-a.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/multiple-degree-programs/1266847-bs-md-interview-notification-class-2012-a.html&lt;/a>
Here is the results/advice thread last year's class made: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/multiple-degree-programs/989166-guidance-2011-2012-bs-md-appicants.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/multiple-degree-programs/989166-guidance-2011-2012-bs-md-appicants.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Please share your stats in the following format, and include which BS/MD programs you applied to, as well as whether you were interviewed and whether you were accepted. (No these aren't my stats... just a generic template!)</p>

<p>Class Rank 1/1000
Unweighted GPA 4.00
Weighted GPA 4.00</p>

<p>SAT:
Math 800; Critical Reading 800; Writing 800 = 2400 Superscore
Math 800; Critical Reading 800; Writing 800 = 2400 One Sitting</p>

<p>SAT II:
Math Level 2: 800
Chemistry: 800
Biology: 800</p>

<p>AP (by the time I have applied to BS/MD programs):
Biology: 5
Calculus BC: 5
Calculus AB Subscore: 5
Chemistry: 5
English Language and Composition: 5</p>

<p>During my senior I completed X more APs:
(Psychology and Physics C)</p>

<p>Major Extracurriculars:
National Honor Society, Key Club, and Leo Club (President).</p>

<p>Community Service:
Hospital Volunteering for 100 hours.</p>

<p>Research Experience:
Some research experience with professor at local college; nothing published.</p>

<p>Applied to the following BS/MD programs:</p>

<ol>
<li> Boston University - INTERVIEW & SELECTED FOR PROGRAM</li>
<li> Brown - No interview</li>
<li> Cal Tech - No interview</li>
<li> Drexel/Drexel - No interview</li>
<li> GW - No interview</li>
<li> Lehigh/Drexel - No interview</li>
<li> Northwestern - No interview</li>
<li> Penn State - INTERVIEW, not selected</li>
<li> Pitt - No interview</li>
<li>RPI/AMC - combined INTERVIEW w/Union/AMC, not selected </li>
<li>Rice - No interview</li>
<li>Rochester - No interview</li>
<li>Siena/AMC - INTERVIEW & SELECTED FOR PROGRAM</li>
<li>UMiami - No interview</li>
<li>Union/AMC - combined INTERVIEW w/RPI/AMC & SELECTED FOR PROGRAM</li>
<li>USC - No interview</li>
<li>Villanova/Drexel - No interview</li>
<li>WashU - No interview</li>
</ol>

<p>Other schools: Harvard (accepted), Princeton (accepted), Yale (accepted), Duke (accepted) (lol I'm just filling in random schools/results for this template).</p>

<p>Decision: I chose BU! I am part of the BU SMED program, Class of 2017 (seven year program).</p>

<p>Reflection: How you narrowed it down and ultimately picked a school/program, what you think were your biggest strengths/ weaknesses, etc.</p>

<p>Advice to Class of 2013:</p>

<p>Good luck to all!</p>

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<p>Thanks for creating this thread, I always wanted to do this to help the future generations too. I’ll be sure to post once all the decisions come in.</p>

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<p>ferredoxin,</p>

<p>Congratulations on your many acceptances!</p>

<p>Did you get an official rejection letter form Penn State/Jefferson? Or did you not hear yet? If you got a letter, what is the date on the letter. What does your MyPennState online status say.</p>

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<p>^ I think it’s just a template (so those aren’t actual results) am I right?</p>

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<p>Lol, he says it’s a template a few times. Getting into Harvard but not most of those programs would be a bit crazy.</p>

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<p>I know the stats and ivy stuff is just a template, but I think the stuff about the combined programs might me real since much of it is consistent with previous posts from ferro…</p>

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<p>First, Ferredoxin is a girl’s name. </p>

<p>Second, it’s statistically more likely that students who have the qualifications to be admitted to any of the most competitive combined BS/MD programs (or even interviewed) will be admitted to HYPS. </p>

<p>Miami HPM interviewed about 8% of its applicants, and admits 3%, Case PPSP interviewed fewer than 5% and will admit 1%. Rice/Baylor, UCSD, WashU, and maybe Northwestern HPME and Brown PLME are even more selective. </p>

<p>On the other hand, HYPS interviews all of their applicants and admits 7%.<br>
2400 students will receive an acceptance form Stanford, maybe 10 from Case PPSP. </p>

<p>All of the regular posters on this forum that have had interviews or acceptances at combined programs, have also been turned down pre-interview by the likes of GWU, HPME, Rochester, Miami, Albany, Case, WashU, and Penn State! (Seems as though Drexel offered a lot of interviews, though…)</p>

<p>It’s much harder to get into a combined program than an elite college.</p>

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<ol>
<li>I copied someone elses stats from last year. I started out changing the generic scores and classes and stuff, but then got lazy and left the post as it was before. I have not yet received any bs/md acceptances, but I will update the template and post April 1st ish!</li>
<li>Yes, I am a girl haha</li>
</ol>

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<p>BUMPPPPP! a lot of decisions are out, so if you’ve heard back from all your BS/MD programs, please post your results in this format! If you are still waiting, please hang on until you have all your results- I want to make this as helpful as possible for the current juniors and I don’t want them to have to scroll through ten pages just to find where you actually get in!</p>

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<p>Are programs really more competitive than elite schools? I got into BU SMED and VNova-Drexel, and got a few more interviews, but was rejected from NU undergrad, rejected from MIT, and waitlisted at Rice.</p>

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<p>I don’t necessarily think they are more competitive than elite admissions- I think it’s more that they are looking for different criteria in applicants. Med programs really want medical related experience, whereas elite schools like well rounded kids. I think elite schools are harder than, say, NJMS or Drexel’s program, and maybe even BU’s program, but the most competitive med programs like HPME, PLME, and Rice/Baylor, are a league of their own. You not only have to get into a top 20 school, but also an even more selective program.
Oh, and I was waitlisted at NU too, but I think that’s because I didn’t get into HPME. they have a tendency of wait listing HPME rejectees because they assume we won’t come without HPME, which is true in my case… I did get into Rice though but I don’t know about the Medical Scholars Program yet. Are you going to attend the SMED open house?
And also, if you’ve heard back from all your schools lets get this results thread going! :)</p>

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<p>I know a lot of people say NU waitlists the HPME candidates that do not get it but my son did interview and was accepted to NU but did not get HPME</p>

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<p>Class Rank: 1/764
UW GPA: 4.0
Weighted GPA: My school doesn’t calculate weighted GPA.</p>

<p>SAT:
Math 800, Critical Reading 760, Writing 740 = 2300 One Sitting
*I only took the SAT once.</p>

<p>SAT Subject Tests:
Math Level 2: 800
Biology M: 800
Chemistry: 800
U.S. History: 800</p>

<p>APs:
Biology: 5
Calculus AB: 5
Calculus BC: 5 (with AB subscore of 5)
French Language: 5
European History: 5
U.S. History: 5</p>

<p>Senior APs:
English Language and Composition
Chemistry
Microeconomics
*I am also taking IB Math HL 2, the highest level math course offered at my high school.</p>

<p>Major Extracurriculars:
American Cancer Society (Vice President)
Relay For Life (Co-Captain)
Mu Alpha Theta (Vice President)
French Honors Society (Director/President)
FIRST Robotics Competition (Regional Winner)
Science Olympiad (I won various individual awards and our team made states the 2 years I was on the team)
Track and Field (4 years)
Cross-Country (4 years)
Leo Club (~100 hours of community service)</p>

<p>Community Service:
American Cancer Society, Relay For Life, Leo Club (~200 hours)</p>

<p>Research Experience:
Internship at University of Southern California, School of Pharmacy (~300 hours) </p>

<p>Applied to the following BS/MD programs: </p>

<ol>
<li>Brown – Brown only does alumni interviews for regular UG. It does NOT arrange PLME interviews. That being said, SELECTED FOR PROGRAM</li>
<li>Case Western – No interview</li>
<li>Northwestern – No interview</li>
<li>Pitt – No interview</li>
<li>Wash U – No interview</li>
<li>Rice – No interview</li>
<li>UCSD (CA residents only) – No interview</li>
<li>Penn State/Jefferson – INTERVIEW AND SELECTED FOR PROGRAM</li>
<li>U of Rochester – INTERVIEW AND SELECTED FOR PROGRAM</li>
</ol>

<p>Other schools: Penn (accepted), Berkeley (accepted with Regents), UCLA (accepted with Regents), UCSD (accepted with Regents), UCI (accepted with Regents), Rice, Case Western, Boston U, Pitt, Johns Hopkins (waitlisted), Columbia (waitlisted), Harvard (waitlisted), Wash U (waitlisted), Northwestern (waitlisted), Harvey Mudd (rejected), Yale (rejected), Stanford (rejected)</p>

<p>Decision: Currently deciding between Rochester REMS and Brown PLME. Leaning toward PLME, will decide after visiting Brown.</p>

<p>Reflection: Factors in my decision include the overall program experience, the quality of the undergraduate and medical institutions, the opportunities for research, flexible curriculum, financial aid package, location, etc. I felt my biggest strengths were my essays and my interviews. I only received interviews for two of the eight programs that required one and I was accepted to both of those programs. My weaknesses were my extracurriculars, as I had no shadowing or hospital volunteering. I only had my research internship and the American Cancer Society/Relay For Life which corresponded to medicine. I wasn’t aware of these programs until it was fairly late into my high school career. </p>

<p>Advice to C/O 2013 and beyond: Start early. If you really want to be a part of these programs, get involved in medicine-related activities as soon as possible. This includes research, volunteering at a hospital, and shadowing physicians. Your essays do count. Invest all your effort into your essays because they will make a difference. Don’t just list your achievements and activities – the essay is about YOU and it has to demonstrate your personality and passion. It shouldn’t just be a repeat of your resume. Explain how every activity led to your desire to pursue medicine. Make sure you have a genuine desire to pursue medicine, that there is a reason for your applying to these programs. If you are invited for an interview, make sure you appear passionate about medicine and you know your stuff. Most importantly, show your personality. Don’t just be a boring rehash of your resume. </p>

<p>THREE KEY POINTS YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER WHEN WRITING YOUR ESSAY/INTERVIEWING:

  1. You are prepared for medicine. (PAST)
  2. You are motivated to practice medicine. (PRESENT)
  3. You have great potential in the field of medicine. (FUTURE)</p>

<p>Hope this helps. This is just my two cents.</p>

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<p>Class Rank: ?/714 (School doesn’t rank)
Unweighted GPA: 3.8?/4.0 (School doesn’t provide unweighted GPA)
Weighted GPA: 4.54</p>

<p>SAT:
Math 800; Critical Reading 740; Writing 760 = 2300 One Sitting</p>

<p>SAT II:
Math Level 2: 800
Chemistry: 770
Biology: 800
Physics: 800</p>

<p>AP (by the time I have applied to BS/MD programs):
Physics B: 5
Calculus BC: 5
Macroeconomics: 5
History: 5
English Language and Composition: 4</p>

<p>During my senior I completed 4 more APs:
(Biology, Physics C, Computer Science, English Lit)</p>

<p>Major Extracurriculars:
Academic Team, EMS Cadet Corps, Math Honor Society (tutoring), Science National Honor Society</p>

<p>Community Service:
EMT Cadet ~150 hours
Hospital Volunteering ~150 hours</p>

<p>Research Experience:
Some group research in Genetics class, nothing published</p>

<p>Applied to the following BS/MD programs:</p>

<ol>
<li> UMKC - No interview</li>
<li> Brown - There are no interviews, rejected</li>
<li> Northwestern - No interview</li>
<li> Miami HPME - No interview</li>
<li> TCNJ/UMDNJ - Interviewed once, rejected</li>
<li> Penn State/Jefferson - Interviewed, rejected</li>
<li> NJIT/SGU - INTERVIEWED & SELECTED</li>
<li> Drexel/Drexel - INTERVIEWED & SELECTED</li>
<li> RPI/AMC - INTERVIEWED & SELECTED</li>
</ol>

<p>Other schools: UPenn (rejected), Northwestern (rejected), Duke (rejected), Brown (rejected), Johns Hopkins (rejected), TCNJ (accepted), Georgia Tech (accepted), Miami (accepted)</p>

<p>Decision: None. Changed my mind about medicine, but would have chosen RPI/AMC.</p>

<p>Reflection: How you narrowed it down and ultimately picked a school/program, what you think were your biggest strengths/ weaknesses, etc.</p>

<p>RPI/AMC provides great research opportunities for people who are actually interested in science. You graduate with an MDDR and should be set to get into some top-notch residencies. RPI should prepare you well for medical school, unlike Drexel, due to its rigor and there is no MCAT requirement. The atmosphere at RPI and at AMC was friendly and Albany seems like a welcoming place despite the cold. I’d never spent much time that far north in the winter before, and I liked it for some reason. The hospital associated with AMC has top-notch facilities and a huge coverage area, so you’ll see some interesting patients. Also, there’s an IMAX theater nearby :P. </p>

<p>Advice to Class of 2013:
Don’t worry too much about the interviews. I worried, but got into more than half the places I interviewed at. I imagine it’s the same for most people since generally about half the people interviewed at most programs get accepted. Also, make sure the colleges you apply to apart from those with programs are attainable so that you have a backup plan. As you can see, applying to Ivies, Northwestern, JHU, and Duke was a waste of time for and Indian male like me. Thankfully, I also applied to Georgia Tech, which gives me a lot more flexibility since it’s both a) not too hard to get into and b) ranked highly in many technical disciplines. You’ll be fine no matter where you go, though.</p>

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<p>For my daughter:</p>

<p>Class Rank 1/400
Unweighted GPA 4.10
Weighted GPA 4.35</p>

<p>SAT:
Math 740; Critical Reading 790; Writing 770 = 2300 Superscore</p>

<p>SAT II:
Math Level 2: 800
Chemistry: 740</p>

<p>ACT 34 36 Science, 36 math</p>

<p>AP (by the time I have applied to BS/MD programs):
Calculus AB: 5
Chemistry: 5
English Language and Composition: 4
Studio Art: 4
APUSH: 4</p>

<p>During my senior I completed X more APs:
Biology
Physics
English
Gov
Calc BC</p>

<p>Major Extracurriculars:
National Honor Society, Spanish National Honor Society
Community Service:
Hospital Volunteering for 300 hours.
President National Charity League
Yearbook Editor
3 sports X 4 years, captain 3 years
Editor Arts Magazine
President of club that brings art to hospitalized children: 200+ hours</p>

<p>Research Experience: with professor at local med school; poster published.</p>

<p>Applied to the following BS/MD programs:</p>

<ol>
<li>Brown - Rejected undergrad</li>
<li>Cal Tech - accepted Caltech, Interview in San Diego, rejected</li>
<li>Rice - Waitlisted (!)</li>
<li>UMiami - Interviewed, $28K scholarship, rejected HPM</li>
<li>WashU - No interview, accepted undergrad</li>
<li>Case PPSP- Accepted, $30K undergrad scholarship, no PPSP interview</li>
</ol>

<p>Other schools: Accepted Stanford, Vanderbilt full tuition scholarship, </p>

<p>Decision: Stanford</p>

<p>Reflection: Only applied to top BS/MD programs, rejected from all. Need better than 2300/34?</p>

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<p>I heard back from my last prog, so here are my UG and prog applications:</p>

<p>Stats:
Top 5% GPA, 3.95 UW, 4.3W, nearly all APs and Honors
2320 SAT, 1570 CR+M, only sitting
AP exams: 5 on APUSH, Biology, Env Sci, and Psych
SAT 2: 800 Bio-M, 800 Math-2, 780 US History, 790 Chemistry
Volunteer EMT 1yr, Hospital volunteer 3yr, shadow physician 2months
Tutored for one year at middle school and 1 month overseas
Co-founded a club at my school, participated in a lot more.
Senior Year is 5 AP classes and 1 Honors
ORM: Indian</p>

<p>Accepted programs:
Boston U (Notified early Jan) (Interview late Jan) (Announced March)
UConn CPiM (Notified early Feb) (Interview mid Feb) (Announced March)
Villanova/ Drexel (Notified late Jan) (Interview early Feb) (Announced March)
Lehigh/ Drexel (Notified late Jan) (Interview early Feb) (Announced March)
TCNJ / UMDNJ (Notified late Jan) (Interview late Jan for Step I, mid March for NJMS) (Announced early April)
Stevens / UMDNJ (Notified early March) (Interview mid March) (Announced early April)</p>

<p>Rejected programs with interview:
Penn State / Jeff (Notified late Dec) (Interview early Feb)
U Miami (Notified late Dec) (Interview mid Jan)</p>

<p>Rejected programs without interview:
GWU (Notified mid Jan)
Case Western (Notified late Jan)
Rochester REMS (Notified early Feb)
Northwestern (Notified late February)
Rice (Notified mid March)
Brown (Notified late March)</p>

<p>Declined interview:
Stonybrook (Notified mid March)</p>

<p>Accepted UG: Hopkins BME, University of Pennsylvania, Penn State (prog), Stony Brook (prog), TCNJ (prog), UConn (prog), Villanova (prog), Lehigh (prog), U Rochester (prog), U Miami (prog), Boston U (prog), GWU (prog), Stevens (prog)</p>

<p>Waitlisted UG: Rice (prog), Case (prog), Princeton</p>

<p>Reject: MIT, Northwestern (prog), Duke, Yale, Columbia, Brown (prog), Harvard</p>

<p>Decision: BU 7-year</p>

<p>Reflection: BU is a great UG and medical school, location is perfect, I loved the campus, and I like it a lot more than my other BS/MDs. Hopkins BME and UPenn are enticing, but BU is a #31 med school and 7 years, and going the traditional route wouldn’t be worth giving that up for me. </p>

<p>Advice: Apply very broadly to programs and also regular UGs. Without the BU program, I would probably have picked UPenn, so try to keep your options open.</p>

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<p>Class Rank: 1/590
Unweighted GPA: 4.0
Weighted GPA: 4.81 </p>

<p>SAT:
Math 780; Critical Reading 800; Writing 760 (2340 One Sitting)</p>

<p>APs : 9 (all Math and Science) completed by the time I applied to BS/MD programs, 4 more (Eng, Govt, Art, Psych) in senior year</p>

<p>Extracurricular:
Scouting (Eagle rank), Field Hockey (Gold Medal - Nationals), Basketball (JV - Captain), Health Science Majors Program, Internship/Shadowing with Neurosurgeons, Medical Forums/camps, Public Service, NSHSS, National Honor Society, French Club, Student Ambassador, Youth Congress</p>

<p>Community Service:
More than 600 hours combined from volunteer activities such as scouting (from feeding the homeless to constructing walkways at a local museum), hospital (Patient Pal), Hospice (Teen Mentor Program, Founder. Also helped get a $30K grant), American Cancer Society. </p>

<p>Research Experience:
Some research under Biology Professor at a local university</p>

<p>Applied to the following BS/MD programs:</p>

<ol>
<li> UMKC - INTERVIEWED & SELECTED (OOS)</li>
<li> Brown PLME - Interviewed by alumni & SELECTED (Neuroscience Major)</li>
<li> Northwestern HPME - INTERVIEWED & REJECTED by ug waitlist</li>
<li> Miami HPM - INTERVIEWED & SELECTED (Full tuition scholarship for ug)</li>
<li> University of Alabama - EMSAP - INTERVIEWED & SELECTED (Full tuition for ug)</li>
<li> Penn State/Jefferson - INTERVIEWED & SELECTED</li>
<li> VCU GMED - INTERVIEWED & SELECTED (Full ride for ug)</li>
<li> NEOMED - INTERVIEWED & on alternate list (OOS)</li>
<li> Lehigh/Drexel - NO INTERVIEW</li>
</ol>

<p>Other schools: UCLA, UCSD (Regents) and Lehigh (accepted; full tuition scholarship at Lehigh), Harvard and Rice (waitlisted), Caltech (rejected)</p>

<p>Strengths: I concentrated mostly on my hospital/patient/doctor interactions, community service, and leadership through science, scouting as well as sports from early on. On top of that experience what might have helped me were the President’s Service Award and EAGLE rank along with good GPA. Recommendation letters came from the teachers and the counselor who have known me for a while. Essays were based on my personal experiences in medical field and how those shaped my desire to pursue medicine. They played a VERY important role in getting interviews even OOS. Public speaking/interview skills acquired through different activities and exercises helped tremendously during interviews. </p>

<p>Weaknesses: NONE (Just kidding!) My SAT II scores were not that great. </p>

<p>Decision: By May 1st!</p>

<p>Advice: Be as versatile as you can. Create unique opportunities to serve that will be helpful to others and meaningful to you. As my mentor texted me after learning about my admissions status, “Keep working hard and stay focused.”</p>

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<p>WOW Congratulations!! Mentor?</p>

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<p>If anyone accepted to Brown PLME has questions about the program, feel free to PM me. I’m in my second year and absolutely loving all the opportunities I’ve been given by PLME.</p>

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<p>Midhelper,</p>

<p>My mentor is one of the the neurosurgeons I shadowed. Just passed along his advice to me for the future applicants.</p>