<p>Does anyone have a list of undergraduate business school rankings? Any will do, I'm just looking for a general one.</p>
<p>That is horrible. Nobody believes those with a straight face. The real ones are Wharton, Stern, Ross, Tepper, and maybe MIT If you like the math science thingy.</p>
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<li>University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 4.8 </li>
<li>Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan) 4.6 </li>
<li>University of CaliforniaBerkeley (Haas) * 4.5
University of MichiganAnn Arbor *<br></li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University --Tepper</li>
<li>NYU-Stern</li>
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<p>"That is horrible. Nobody believes those with a straight face. The real ones are Wharton, Stern, Ross, Tepper, and maybe MIT If you like the math science thingy."</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but tons of people believe those with straight faces. It's BusinessWeek, a much more credible magazine than U.S.News. No matter if the ranking is correct or BS, many people would believe it simply because it's Business Week.</p>
<p>The some of the best schools (for undergraduate studies) are:</p>
<p>Wharton, Sloan, Stern, Haas, Ross, McCombs, McIntire, Tepper, Marshall, and etc.</p>
<p>Kelley, although not that prestigious, is getting some progress in term of recruitment.</p>
<p>"No matter if the ranking is correct or BS" That makes no sense. So even if it is BS, which it is, we should all believe it? Us News is much more popular and credible than stupid Emory and Notre Dame overrankings.</p>
<p>"Wharton, Sloan, Stern, Haas, Ross, McCombs, McIntire, Tepper, Marshall, and etc."</p>
<p>Agreed but take out Mccombs and Marshall and maybe even Mcintire. You obviously support the rankings since you are MR. UVA man but that's underestandable since I suppose if I went to UVA I'd support a ranking that overranks my university too.</p>
<p>The only thing credible about this ranking is Wharton is number one. Everything else is HORRIBLY out of order. They are ranking Notre Dame OVER MIT AND STERN!!! They put Tepper as #2 for ACADEMIC QUALITY and give it bad grades for education and academics? How Much Sense Does That Make??Ya know recruiters consistently highlight Tepper as one of their favorites and it has one of the highest avg salaries + sends majority to New York and yet is below Brigham Young?</p>
<p>also, brigham young over Berkeley Haas? Just gimee a freaking break...</p>
<p>PS: MBA businessweek blows too. They overrank Northwestern and nobody trusts it. Everyone turns again to Us News and Wall Street Journal.</p>
<p>I think I'll pay attention to both rankings...instead of listening to what some ignorant teens have to say on some website.</p>
<p>"we should all believe it?"</p>
<p>I said "people would believe it" EVEN if it's BS because the magazine is fairly credible. Did I say "should"? </p>
<p>Futurewhartonman, I wish you good luck getting into Wharton with your URM status.</p>
<p>Oh, lose some of your immaturity, it will help.</p>
<p>P.S. Does "Best Business Schools" mean "Best Schools for Investment Banking"? There are many, many aspects in Business other than Investment Banking.</p>
<p>By the way, Haas's recruitment really isn't that fantastic, compared to Ross, Stern and etc.</p>
<p>Uh oh, better not say that with the Cal kids running around but even if that is true that doesn't explain Stern and Tepper not being ranked higher. </p>
<p>Thanks for the good luck and gl 2 u too at UVA.</p>
<p>That's the placement report of Tepper last year. It's good but I'm not THAT impressed. still not on par with Ross...etc. Tepperites do have the highest average salary, because a lot of them engage in quantitative/technical side of business.</p>
<p>Stern does have great recruitment, and it is ranked quite high by Both U.S. News and BusinessWeek. If you are arguing about why it's ranked lower than Notre Dame and Emory, the only thing I can say is: BusinessWeek seems to take account of a lot of factors other than "wall street recruitment", such as faculty-student ratio, teaching quality, facilities, and etc. I understand that you may not care about some of those criterion, but a lot of prospective students do.</p>
<p>A tip for you (you;ve probably heard of it), visit NYU before you apply, because it may not be the ideal school for you if you'd like to have a typical college experience, such as one Penn/Michigan would offer.</p>
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instead of listening to what some ignorant teens have to say on some website.
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Thank you for finally "getting it".</p>
<p>17 year olds do not know colleges and what makes them better than one another. They look at test scores and make decisions based on that.</p>
<p>Here's the full list of US News rankings, but for Business, i'd say Business Week is better, and no, it's not because my school is ranked higher (10 in one, 11 in another), it's because they take many more important factors into consideration when they are making the rankings. US News is solely what the "peers" have to say about the school, grading it 1-5.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wiseway.com.cn/usrank/6.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.wiseway.com.cn/usrank/6.htm</a></p>
<p>Untilted: I'll tell you why that placement report is impressive.</p>
<p>The best Wall Street companies are Lehman Brothers, Merill Lynch, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and the prestigious CGI-AMS in NOVA. According to that link, Tepper sends the most kids to IBM (5), JP Morgan (5), Merill Lynch (4), Lehman Brothers (4), and CGI (3-All Consultants). What does that tell you? Taking out IBM (which is pretty good too) you basically have Tepper sending the MOST kids to the BEST Wall Street companies. These companies are the "modes" for Tepper and every other company shows up less often than these. <a href="http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/c...y/salary/ba.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/c...y/salary/ba.pdf</a></p>
<p>Carnegie Mellon is constantly ranked high for job recruitment such as "Hottest College to get a Job" and "Most Improved School" and "Recruiters's Fav". <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5626574/site/newsweek/%5B/url%5D">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5626574/site/newsweek/</a></p>
<p>The quant side rumor is a couple years old now and many Tepper kids utilize their soft skills and plenty go into NYC. 70% get one or more job offers and 30% go to grad school. I agree with almost all of your points Untilted and Futurewhartonman you should tone down on the yelling and caps. With that said, Untilted: Many do not know much about CMU or Tepper so I disagree with statements like "a lot of them engage in quantitative/technical side of business." as it is no longer true. That is the WHOLE reason we have Information Systems as a side to the HSS department now which combines Comp Sci and Business for the technical kids.</p>
<p>I also wonder about the #2 Academic Quality and then the lower educational score.. kinda weird.. There is a "common sense" to rankings though and even though the Wall Street Journal ranks Tepper as 3rd for MBA based on recruiter rep mostly and doesn't even place Harvard in the top 3 I would rather go to Harvard as ranked by Us News. Us News IS NOT PERFECT but is very consistent. </p>
<p>Finally, I am a proud Virginian and I'll probably make some Cal kids mad but I agree with Untilted's statement about Cal Haas.</p>
<p>Accepted Already, I understand Tepper is a great school. UVa's McIntire sends more kids to JPMorgan, Merrill Lynch, etc than Tepper, I don't understand why some people regard it as "not impressive".</p>
<p>hehe, UVa is "hottest for fitness" on that link.</p>
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<li><p>Tepper is WAY smaller. Only 59 kids in that survey btw.
McIntire has 325 in that survey.
That means in the survey, Mcintire's student body is 5.5 times larger.</p></li>
<li><p>Tepper's "mode companies" are IBM (5), JP Morgan (5), Merill Lynch (4), and Lehman Brothers (4) and CGI (3). </p></li>
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<p>UVa's "mode companies" are Pricewater (18), Ernst (15), KMPG (14), Deloite (8), AND THEN JP morgan (7). <a href="http://www.commerce.virginia.edu/career_services/Employers/Placement%20report/Reports/Placement_report_2005.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.commerce.virginia.edu/career_services/Employers/Placement%20report/Reports/Placement_report_2005.pdf</a> (page 13)</p>
<p>That is why I am proud of the Tepper survey. </p>
<p>By the way, whoever said UVa' business school is "not impressive" is quite misinformed and a bit of an idiot if I do say so myself :)</p>
<p>Nevertheless, McIntire does have impressive placements. C'mon, 4 for Lazard (both elite and elitist boutique) is darn good. ;) Another thing I like about the UVa placement is the wide variety of investment banks/consulting firms. To prospective students, keep in mind that the college of arts and sciences also sends a similar amount of kids to wall street.</p>
<p>This is a list of all investment banks, fairly complete.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investment_bank#Investment_banks%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investment_bank#Investment_banks</a></p>
<p>P.S. I wasnt aware of Tepper's small size. Among all the top 10 undergrad business schools, Im the most unfamiliar with Tepper. I'm gonna study this school in the next couple of days. :)</p>
<p>Hey Untilted I totally agree dude. I never will say UVA is NOT a top school. I have so much respect for it and personally would pick it over other top schools like Stern and Haas.</p>
<p>It has been great talking with you. I know MANY people know almost nothing about either Carnegie Mellon or Tepper or both (there is a reason we do get consistent Top recruiter rankings :)) so HOPEFULLY I can educate some people about the school.</p>
<p>Quote: 1. Tepper is WAY smaller. Only 59 kids in that survey btw.
McIntire has 325 in that survey.
That means in the survey, Mcintire's student body is 5.5 times larger.</p>
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<li>Tepper's "mode companies" are IBM (5), JP Morgan (5), Merill Lynch (4), and Lehman Brothers (4) and CGI (3). </li>
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<p>UVa's "mode companies" are Pricewater (18), Ernst (15), KMPG (14), Deloite (8), AND THEN JP morgan (7). <a href="http://www.commerce.virginia.edu/ca...report_2005.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.commerce.virginia.edu/ca...report_2005.pdf</a> (page 13)</p>
<p>That is why I am proud of the Tepper survey. </p>
<p>By the way, whoever said UVa' business school is "not impressive" is quite misinformed and a bit of an idiot if I do say so myself </p>
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<p>i never said uva sucked or wasn't impressive. Hey accepted u seems 2 know a lot do u mind reading my essays answering some q's about business for me.</p>
<p>I have an intern now but I do have some free time. PM me with your q's and etc.</p>
<p>Yo, can you get into a business school right out of undergrad?</p>
<p>Wow...didn't realize there was this much controversy over B-School rankings. Keep arguing guys, this is really helpful actually. :)</p>