<p>Should be no more arguments :). Once the facts are shown there is little to no need to argue as I think all parties reached an agreement. </p>
<p>"Yo, can you get into a business school right out of undergrad?"
MBA? Yes but it would be very hard. Carnegie Mellon has a 5 year MBA program with Tepper but you have to be a student of course. I think Wharton only took 4 kids with 0-2 years work experience for MBA so I think 0 work experience would be EXTREMELY hard if not impossible. For a good MBA you definitely want to work for a couple years and then apply. Remember: Work Experience = #1. Then it is GMAT/GPA and etc.</p>
<p>"Yo, can you get into a business school right out of undergrad?"</p>
<p>every year, 2-3 wharton kids can do it. however, it's impossible for most of us.</p>
<p>keep in mind, i'm referring to the elite MBA programs.</p>
<p>Oh, and also, why would you want to get an MBA right out of undergraduate? Part of the purpose of MBA is to integrate learning with work experience.</p>
<p>For the top 10 MBA schools (Stanford, Harvard, UPenn [Wharton], Northwestern [Kellogg], Dartmouth [Tuck], UChicago, MIT [Sloan], Columbia, Michigan, UVA [Darden]) avg work experience is 4-5 years and basically no one has less than 3. For undergrad b-school recruiting into investment banking and related jobs, the top schools supplying companies from my experience are Wharton, NYU, UVA, BC, UMichigan, Cal/Berkeley, Notre Dame. CMU must be a more recent phenomenon as I've yet to meet anyone from there.</p>
<p>I looked at CMU and I know it gets tons of respect just cause of straight up analytical abilities of the kids that they turn out. When I visited there were kids that were x-admitted into MIT and other damn good schools. Tepper has this same quality.</p>
<p>I really like Duke and I wanna see if they have some program at Fuqua [it's not in the top 10 i guess, but i thought it was good.. hmm] for the undergrad to grad. i'll be an undergrad there next year</p>
<p>That is true and also few remember that the school was not even known as "Tepper" until March 19, 2004 when David. A. Tepper made his generous donation. Since then all kinds of good stuff has been happening and this year Tepper enjoyed more than the 20% overall University increase in applications for the class of '10. The acceptance rate was 19.23%. In its relatively short life span the school has also produced 6 Nobel Laureautes in Economics.</p>
<p>yea tepper is really good and I think of it as more of a peer to Stern than haas. Haas is just west coast and regional and placement survey shows they don't have as many kids over on the east. this is too bad since the east is where the top businesses are and haas is useless if you wanna work in silicon valley since you should be donig engineering or comp sci.</p>
<p>What's with the IBM kids though? if you take that out and add Goldman Sachs then Tepper's mode will be just about perfect lol.</p>
<p>Yeah, I agree. Georgetown is one of the tops for undergrad business school and is one I inadvertantly left off and would maybe even put it right after Wharton as far as getting top jobs is concerned.</p>
<p>u took it too far gellino. average median salary for georgetown is 50,000 and the mean is 49,141. They do focus on banking and stuff but start off a bit lower.</p>
<p>I'm just going by my experience of how many Georgetown grads were in my and my friends' analyst classes and how many Georgetown grads were in my class at business school.</p>
<p>Neither a big plus or minus. Having the business school background makes it easier for sure. Much similar material in more depth and applied to problems.</p>
<p>"Am I misinformed, or is it true that MBA programs don't give a whit about whether their applicants have an undergraduate business degree?"</p>
<p>this one is ez to answer. the ugrad degree itself doesn't mean much. you use it to get a good job and the NUMBER ONE criteria in top MBA is work experience. GMAT and GPA would probably be 2nd/3rd.</p>
<p>This is why acceptedalready, untilted, and I care about the postgrad surveys on jobs.</p>
<p>Barrons: True but the point is to secure a good top position from which to get that MBA and that is what Ugrad Bschools like Wharton and Tepper do.</p>
<p>Is there a huge difference between #11 Indiana, #30 BU and #50 UPitt? Will going to any over the other make that much of a difference as to where I'll end up? (The three schools i'm applying to BTW)</p>
I said "people would believe it" EVEN if it's BS because the magazine is fairly credible.
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<p>The magazine might be fairly credible, but it most definitely does not have a good track record with rankings. </p>
<p>Here are the 2004 BW rankings of MBA programs:</p>
<p>1 Northwestern
2 Chicago
3 Pennsylvania
4 Stanford
5 Harvard
6 Michigan
7 Cornell
8 Columbia
9 MIT
10 Dartmouth</p>
<p>Anyone who knows the first thing about MBA programs can tell you that's bull. Chicago at #2? Realistically speaking it's not even top four. The premier school for management (i.e. Harvard) at #5? Noting that, it's not surprising to see some oddities (to put it mildly) in the undergrad rankings as well. US may have a simpler methodology but they do a better job of minimizing severe over- or underrankings.</p>