Business Week's ranking of under-grad B-Schools

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<p>For those who enjoy looking at rankings, Business Week has come out with their first ever ranking of undergrad business schools. There are some surprises here.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/toc/06_19/B39830619bschools.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/toc/06_19/B39830619bschools.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Interesting. Maybe undergrad bus degrees are going mainstream finally?
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Once a refuge for students with poor grades and modest ambitions, many undergraduate business programs now get MBA-like respect.

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<p>Other than the lousy pdf, what are the surprises?</p>

<p>Also, any idea how the starting salaries compare to other non engineering grads?</p>

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<p>hopefully this is a better link</p>

<p><a href="http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06rankings/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06rankings/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Did you notice for Cornell, the land grand university (Hotel, Human ecology, ILR) tuition rate is listed ?</p>

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<p>BYU sounds like a very good option for someone who has to take out loans to attend college. I think the person has to be able to tolerate the 98% mormons first.</p>

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<p>NMD, no real surprises, except for the obvious fact that the Business Week researchers must have a profound affinity for the NCAA televised games, and a small geographical bias towards the East. </p>

<p>In the US News business reports, the following schools are not listed among the top 20: </p>

<p>Notre Dame<br>
Brigham Young<br>
Georgetown<br>
Miami<br>
Lehigh<br>
Villanova </p>

<p>That does not stop them to rank Notre Dame at a lofty number 3. Did they provide Regis Philbin with 10,000 voting entries? </p>

<p>Anyhow, this is how the two rankings compare with the schools listed according the 2006 USN and the BW ranking number following the entry. </p>

<p>University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 1
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan) 4
University of California–Berkeley (Haas) * 12
University of Michigan–Ann Arbor * 6
University of Texas–Austin (McCombs) * 9
Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 16
New York University (Stern) 7
U. of North Carolina–Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) * 11
Univ. of Southern California (Marshall) 21
University of Virginia (McIntire) * 2
Indiana University–Bloomington (Kelley) * 10
Cornell University (NY) 14
Purdue Univ.–West Lafayette (Krannert) (IN)* 45
U. of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign * 22
Univ. of Minnesota–Twin Cities (Carlson) * 26
Univ. of Wisconsin–Madison * 27
Washington University in St. Louis (Olin) 15
Emory University (Goizueta) (GA) 5
Ohio State University–Columbus (Fisher) * 43
Pennsylvania State U.–University Park (Smeal) * 32
University of Arizona (Eller) * Not listed by BW in top 50</p>

<p>PS I did this quickly - so it may not be 100% accurate</p>

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<p>what is also strange is that a school like Haas beats Ross on nearly every numerical statistic, but yet is ranked far lower due to (perceived) job placements.</p>

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<p>Sybbie- the tuition amounts are listed for all the colleges- The $17,000 tuition for Cornell is probably based on tuition for NYS residents who are in the "business" track at Cornell or better known as AEM (applied economic management ??) AEM is in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (CALS). Only at Cornell can business be in the Ag. School. No one said Cornell was easy to understand. But you just gotta love it. The land grant schools at Cornell are ILR- Human Ec. and CALS (not the Hotel School). It does look like the list includes instate tuition costs at all the Public U's (or land grant components like Cornell) as tuition at schools like UVA ,UNC etc. are quite reasonable. The OOS tuition at Cornell for CALS-ILR Human Ec. is probably around $30,000. It's a bargain for NYS kids, not as much for OOS kids. Hey-- but we don't have a great state U system like Va- Mich or Wisc.</p>

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<p>Isn't Cornell Business in the Johnson School?</p>

<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06profiles/cornell1.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06profiles/cornell1.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Mini, didn't you mean to inquire about Cornell Undergraduate being part of the Department of Applied Economics and Management and the "Business-Agribusiness-Applied Economics" program? </p>

<p>AEM is home to Cornell's accredited general business degree program for undergraduates—and one of only two accredited programs in the Ivy League.</p>

<p><a href="http://aem.cornell.edu/flash.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://aem.cornell.edu/flash.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>What's got me laughing about this is that my younger d. is a potential business/accounting major, a URM, and a Div. I gymnast. The number of female applicants at many, if not most, of these schools seems to be between 10-20%. So when I told her that she could get a full scholarship to wheel around between two iron bars and walk across a 4-inch wide block of wood, and then spend most of her time around lots of hot guys who will all be in training to be rich someday, she gave me two thumbs up! (Cross-referencing Div I gymnastics with accounting programs took some doing....)</p>

<p>Aren't colleges GREAT? ;)</p>

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<p>Mini- The Johnson school is the Graduate Business School. The undergrad program is through the College of Ag and Life Sciences. My d is in the ILR program. Cornell has got to be one of the most complicated schools to try to understand but definitely worth the effort. From what I read on the Cornell board, AEM is one of the hardest programs to get into but not so hard once you are in.</p>

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<p>Nah, no effort here. It' a loser! No scholarships for gymnasts. No accounting. Might be some hot guys, but I'm sure she can find enough of those elsewhere, especially at ratios of 6 or 10 to 1. ;)</p>