<p>Yeah, but that statement was drafted for "normal circumstances." The fact that an entire residential college is going to be demolished means that the University is going to have to put freshmen and sophomores somewhere since they guarantee housing the first two years. Then at the end of sophomore year, they choose whether or not they want to stay in their college, go to their paired college, go to another four-year college, or move into other upperclass housing. All of this under normal circumstances. So now it just depends on the University's next move with regard to where they plan on putting Butlerites for the two years that the new Butler is going to take to be built.</p>
<p>I'm curious as to how they're shrinking Butler, according to ec1234. The only way I can see this happening is if rising juniors who were in Butler choose to not stay in Butler AND if the university doesn't place any new Freshmen into Butler.</p>
<p>They could be shrinking Butler already, by putting fewer 2010 students there. Though the 21 people on the CC housing thread are obviously not a huge sample size, isn't it strange that only 1 person is in Butler?</p>
<p>The chance of that happening for a uniformly-distributed class (correct my math if it's wrong - I haven't taken my stat class yet) is: C(21,1)<em>(1/5)</em>(4/5)^20 = 4.8%. Of course, that doesn't prove anything in terms of statistical significance, but it seems at least plausable that Butler is already being scaled down.</p>
<p>cball is correct, butler has a smaller class size, and wilson has a larger one to make up for it, as does mathey with the addition of hamilton.</p>
<p>whoa, a lot of confusion here. here's what we know: all five brown-brick butler buildings are being razed, at once, in the summer of 2007. after two years of construction, they will be replaced by two slightly larger dormitories on a similar footprint but housing a lot fewer students (made possible by the annexation of bloomberg into butler). for their sophomore year, 2010 butlerites who don't draw into 1915 or bloomberg are going to have to be housed in either whitman (even after admitting freshmen and 100 upperclassmen, there will still be a couple hundred vacant spaces there for sophomores, who will have to come from <em>somewhere</em> if the college is to be filled), or in nearby dormitories as is customary in the renovation of other dorms. for example, scully could easily be annexed to house butlerites for the two construction years. it was built as a "swing space" for just such occasions.</p>
<p>here's the latest on the planning for butler:</p>
<p>and here are early architectural renderings and plans:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/rc/map/butler/%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/rc/map/butler/</a>
<a href="http://www.princeton.edu/rc/map/%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/rc/map/</a> (scroll)</p>
<p>I am thinking the same thing, f.scottie. The only confusion is over the size of the Butler 2010 class - you imply that it is the same as always (which is what I thought before today), but according to ec1234 (and, informally, the Housing thread) it seems that the class may be smaller. Perhaps this will make it easier for the university to find places to house them next year?</p>
<p>i don't think "finding places" is an issue, though. as far as i know (no announcements), no dorms are being renovated in 2007-08. so, 375 students will be displaced by the razing of butler, and 125 will be added to the freshman class as part of the enrollment increase. but the university will not only have whitman to use then (capacity: 500), but <em>two</em> conveniently located swing dorms in bloomberg and scully (another 500, together). it would be no harder to move 375 students into these two dorms than to move some lesser number in this or some other arrangement.</p>
<p>Link to look at Whitman currently.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/%7Ewhitman/%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/~whitman/</a></p>
<p>cball--I don't think there's any particular significance to the fact that the Butler kids haven't posted much yet. As you pointed out, many of them might be somewhat disappointed and disinclined to post anything (although I think that they will get over those feelings quite soon). For what it's worth, my daughter is in Butler (she never posts on CC though).</p>
<p>Yeah, there have been quite a few moms posting for their children who are in Butler this year.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight about the Butler situation, everyone!</p>
<p>I'm in butler, and I'm starting to grow content with the situation
Walker is actually not an architectural expirement that went wrong, and I'm excited about being in the centre of campus.</p>
<p>Does anyone know how big the singles/doubles are in 1942? I know that the housing packet said that room dimensions are not available and it is best to wait until arrival before purchasing extras; however, we live in a college town and with the end of the summer term in the next week or two, there are some good buys on used things like futons and dorm refrigerators. Perhaps I should start another post........</p>
<p>Room diagrams (drawn to scale) are available at <a href="http://gis.princeton.edu/bldgdorms_u/%5B/url%5D">http://gis.princeton.edu/bldgdorms_u/</a></p>
<p>These should give you at least a general idea of how much space you have to work with!</p>
<p>On son's room rendering there is a scale in the bottom left-hand corner and using the zoom-window feature you can measure the size of the rooms, windows, etc. Son's appears to be 8 x 12 on one wall and 8x15 on the other with a 6 foot wide window.</p>
<p>Kat</p>
<p>Thanks y'all. That's about the same measurement I'm coming up with as well, using the scale. DD and roomies will need to decide how they want to do things, 6 girls assigned to 4 singles and 1 double.</p>
<p>Actually, I believe it's four singles and one room the size of a triple. I'm one of your daughter's roommates (in case you didn't know). :)</p>
<p>How wonderful, skysongx!!! Check your PM!</p>