<p>@@" wooow.
i reli want more examples hahaha. ><
but thanks for the comments</p>
<p>i live in utah.. BYU is like the mormon religion on crack.</p>
<p>if you think being a mormon is uptight. try going to byu.</p>
<p>don't go. its not worth it.</p>
<p>Not all Mormons are crazy. But think about it - the degree of Mormons who attend BYU are in the same league with Catholics who attend those super-devoutly Catholic universities - that is to say, very, VERY serious about their religion.</p>
<p>mkay. truue truuue.
so u guys think even w/ the low price its not worth it?</p>
<p>It's not worth it. Trust us CCers on this one - we will save you from four years of incredible awkwardness and misery. :)</p>
<p>EDIT: Also noticed this fine print on the CollegeBoard site-</p>
<p>"Note: Undergraduate 2-semester tuition $8,160 for nonmembers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."</p>
<p>And at that price, you could probably attend your in-state flagship U without all that Mormon craziness.</p>
<p>I am an atheist who works for a very small Mormon-owned business- about half family employees and the rest non-family, non-Mormon. The family is very devout- however I have to say I have NEVER felt pressured in regard to their religious beliefs in any way!!!! While they are very open to discussing their religious beliefs , which I find very interesting, they have never pushed it on me. I admire their work ethics and their values. They are very family oriented and extremely giving people- they would do anything for anyone. All of the kids have gone to BYU and seem to have received excellent educations. </p>
<p>That being said I think it would be very difficult to adjust to the atmosphere of BYU. Religion is definitely an over-riding theme and it sounds like the campus pretty much shuts down on Sundays. Even one of the family members has told me that she feels it would be difficult to attend if you were not Mormon. It's almost like a culture- their religion encompasses every aspect of their lives. Not a bad thing at all, but something to be very aware of.</p>
<p>The price is definitely good though, even for non church members! If you are a religious person already, their beliefs are not out of line with any Christian religion- if anything their Church encourages living their religion on a daily basis. Good Luck!</p>
<p>OP,
You ask a lot of questions that you could get more complete answers to by simply going to the web pages of the colleges that interest you. It's usually most useful to turn to CC for the information that you can't get on the colleges' websites or through Google. This includes your questions on the scholarship and financial aid board about numerous individual colleges' financial aid policies for internationals.</p>
<p>"Not all Mormons are crazy. But think about it - the degree of Mormons who attend BYU are in the same league with Catholics who attend those super-devoutly Catholic universities - that is to say, very, VERY serious about their religion."</p>
<p>Obviously you haven't met many Catholics. Many of us in America are lapsed or recovering Catholics. And the devout are hardly holy rollers when compared to other devoted members of other religions.</p>
<p>Jesuit and urban Catholic universities are wide open. Even Catholic-dominated Catholic and Notre Dame, there's a place for non-Catholics. They aren't as stifling as most schools affiliated with other religions.</p>
<p>kawaiigurl, this school is not for you. focus your attention on other schools.</p>
<p>BYU is also plagued with serious academic freedom issues.</p>
<p>Academic</a> freedom at Brigham Young University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>In many ways, the school definitely falls more towards the Bob Jones/Liberty University end of the religious college spectrum than the Boston College/Georgetown end.</p>
<p>Like I said earlier while there are serious Catholic, that still isn't serious.
Sure crazy Catholic obstain from sex before marriage and don't believe in abortion,but There is no such thing as an evangelical Catholic either.</p>
<p>The Christian that shove their belief down people's throat as evangelical christian are protestants. The Catholic Church has 1/6 of all people in the world. They don't need to evangelize.</p>
<p>I did go to byu, but I cannot comment on the business program. I just hear its good.</p>
<p>There are alot of important things to consider if you are thinking byu.</p>
<p>1) Read their Honor Code and make sure you are willing to adhere to it. I was naive and thought it was no big deal b/c most schools have some sort of code of ethics, but it is not a joke. If you break it, you can and will be kicked out of school. There is little to no forgiveness. Get caught past "first base" and depending on your bishop, you're out. There are plenty of narcs who feel a duty to turn you in for the sake of maintaining the byu-experience. If not your roommates, one of your neighbors will.</p>
<p>You will have to live in byu-approved housing. It has its pros and cons. You can only live with members of the same sex. opposite sex have to vacate your apt at curfew. There are monthly cleaning checks. Your apts are required to be furnished. Your apt contract is per bed, so you dont have to come up with extra $ if your roomate does not come up with his/her share.
Basically, you have the same rules as a 16 yr old living at their parents. It sounds bad, but the trade-off is it makes roommates easier to live with.</p>
<p>A big problem is most students come from sheltered lives. Then these extra rules are put into place that keeps them sheltered. Add in that they all share a strong religious belief that is also the core of their everyday and social life. That is a bad mixture. Take something that is supposed to be good and pure like religion and mix it with petty popularity contests, and you get the byu experience. People are genuinely nice, but dont realize that they are offensive and intolerant to others beliefs. Its not hard to befriend people who are above it, but its still all around you. </p>
<p>There will also be an extra structure known as your ward. Its a congregation, and is most likely your entire apt complex. They meet for 3 hours on Sunday for church and plan various activities through out the week. It helps to bring people together. Its not a bad thing if you like other people. If you would exist in your own circle of friends, its a bit annoying. </p>
<p>I meant to paint an unbiassed pic of byu, but failed. It takes a certain type of person to thrive there. There is a lot of over-head. Dont expect to just show up, go to class, and live your life. Other people's beliefs will be forced on you. Students jokingly say you might as well convert to mormonism to get the tuition discount. You are basically already living it.</p>
<p>If you are thick skinned and can laugh-off the stupid people you will be fine. Well that is if you already a bit prudish (no drink, smoke, sex).</p>
<p>I was recently chatting with an LDS dad about his son, who just finished his freshman year at BYU. For some reason, I thought they did their mission after college, but I was wrong. They do their mission after freshman year, and he said about 80% of the kids go. So, you've got to know that of the freshman friends you make freshman year, 80% of them will leave campus, to return two years later.</p>
<p>So, in summation, the BYU experience includes:</p>
<p>--serious issues of academic freedom, which I would assume would keep top faculty around the country from even considering a position there.</p>
<p>--All of your freshmen friends will take off for Mormon missions after freshmen year.</p>
<p>--You must adhere to a strict religious based behavior code of which any violations will probably result in expulsion and just to keep you honest, you're surrounded by a large percentage of the student population who consider themselves as something akin to a Mormon version of the Saudi religious police.</p>
<p>--You will face unrelenting pressure to convert</p>
<p>--You will largely be surrounded by sheltered religious fundamentalists, many of whom will attempt to ostracize anyone not conforming to their beliefs and backgrounds.</p>
<p>Seriously, what on earth would possess a non Mormon to even consider BYU?</p>
<p>Kawiigurl, my daughter went to BYU. She is Mormon, I am not. Despite the negative experiences some of the posters have had, I found most of the church members to be respectful and tolerant of my beliefs. Although not religious, my lifestyle had some similarities to theirs--no drinking, no smoking, etc. If this is your lifestyle, you might be comfortable at BYU, with one exception--most of the social activities are centered around the church, so a non-member will tend to feel left out. Also, as some other posters have noted, employers were definitely very interested in BYU grads. Good luck with your decision!</p>
<p>I am a BYU graduate and a Mormon. Check out byu.edu and lds.org to get a feel for the campus and the LDS Church (official name is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints).
BYU has a moral code you will be asked to maintain. No drinking, premarital sexual relations, dress code. Undergraduates are also required to take religion classes. Some who come to school and get to see what Mormonism is about are baptized but there are many who come and go to school and maintain their own religious beliefs. You will be respected for your beliefs.
Because of strong work ethics the school has a great atmosphere and what I think a college campus should be. It is also one of the most beautiful campuses.<br>
They rank high because of the honesty, strong work ethics, and the focus of the school is on learning and becoming better. There is great diversity almost the student body. BYU ranks very high in students who are fluent in other languages because many have served an LDS mission to other countries.
As far as thing to do--Provo is in the heart of the Rocky Mountains. I mountain bike, ski, water ski, and run ultra marathons and I moved back here because of the outdoors and strong family values.
If these are things you are looking for in a school talk to other students or graduates and come visit the campus.</p>
<p>Visiting is a great idea. My son and I visited Abilene Christian, which is a very conservative school of a denomination which is not our own. While we both came away with a great respect for the school, Son also came away with the distinct feeling that it was not the place for him. (I'm glad he came to that conclusion on his own, because I felt exactly the same way.)</p>