My daughter took Sign Language 21 and Sign Language 22 (two semesters) through dual enrollment with our local CC. When we filled out the Cal State App it gave her two years of language in the A-g matching. However, when my other daughter took Japanese 1 over summer in high school, that one class gave her two years of college credit in high school. On the college catalog it shows Sign 21 is equivalent to 2 years high school language and Sign 22 is equivalent to 3 years of high school language. Since SLO is so competitive and years over the minimum is so important should she have just two years of language other than English, 3, 4 or 5 years? I am so confused and plan to email SLO directly to ask them to update her application if that is even possible at this point. Thank you for your help! @Gumbymom
correction- my other high school daughter took Japanese 1 at a CC over summer and it gave her two years of high school credit, not two years of college credit.
For CC credit, usually 1 semester= 1 year credit for the CSU’s. Not sure why your Daughter got 2 years of credit for Japanese 1?
According to the DE information I found, 2 years of FL credit can be given if: The course is a first semester college level course, described by the course catalog as being equivalent to two years of high school study
Or a second semester college course, described in the course catalog with the prerequisites of successful completion of the first semester course or two years of high school study.
Which college catalog are you referring?
If the community college is in California, you can check its courses for a-g requirements at University of California A-G Course List .
For example, at Diablo Valley College, University of California A-G Course List says that most first semester foreign language courses are LOTE level 2 (i.e. equivalent to high school year 2), but American Sign Language (ASL) I is LOTE level 1.
Here are the links to the Irvine Valley College Catalog Descriptions for Sign Language 21 and 22:
ASL 21 BEGINNING AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE I - Acalog ACMS™ (ivc.edu)
Irvine Valley College Catalog Description
This course is designed to develop the student’s ability to understand and communicate in American Sign Language (ASL). The course introduces the language of sign; the manual alphabet (finger spelling); and the basic vocabulary, grammar, syntax, and conversational conventions of ASL. The emphasis is on ASL as a visual-gestural language and on the unique cultural and linguistic features of the Deaf community. SIGN 21 is equivalent to two years of high school ASL. ASL 21 was formerly offered as SIGN 21.
ASL 22 BEGINNING AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE II - Acalog ACMS™ (ivc.edu)
Irvine Valley College Catalog Description
This course is designed to further develop the student’s ability to understand and communicate in American Sign Language (ASL). The emphasis is on expanding ASL vocabulary and finger-spelling skills and on syntactical accuracy. This course discusses the appropriate use of sign language in various social contexts and examines cultural versus pathological perspectives on Deafness. SIGN 22 is equivalent to three years of high school ASL. ASL 22 was formerly offered as SIGN 22.
@Gumbymom @RNmomof4 @ucbalumnus I think between rereading the catalog description and the links/grid you provided, thank you! that maybe she is eligible for three years of High school language credit for Sign 21 and 22. We have emailed SLO to ask for their guidance as well and will let you know what they say.
Just checked and sign 22 is Lote 3. Thank you!
In terms of LOTE level, AP chinese is LOTE4+, would taking that at 12th grade at my high school suffice?
UCs and CSUs will consider an AP foreign language course as fulfilling levels 1-4 of language other than English.
bobthebest self studied for the test. Will that still be recognized the same?
UCs and CSUs will consider an AP score of 3 or higher as fulfilling the frosh admission requirement in language other than English.