California Community College -> University of California, Berkeley -> Stanford University Law

<p>Hi everyone!</p>

<p>So, as my senior year is ending, I've decided to go to my local community college. It's not like I did bad in high school, I just want to save money and I know that I'd do very well at a CC (h.s. gpa = 4.1, SAT = 2120).</p>

<p>Anyway, I have 16 AP courses under my belt and plan to take the following courses at SBCC: (I'm done with Gen ed through APs).</p>

<p>Freshman Year
-Social and Political History of the United States I<br>
-American Government and Politics
-Introduction to Political Theory
-Introduction to Politics</p>

<p>-Social and Political History of the United States II
-National, State and Local Politics
-International Relations
-History of the United States</p>

<p>Summer
-Introduction to Sociology
-Introduction to Criminology</p>

<p>Sophomore Year
-Comparative Government
-Principles of Macroeconomics
-History of California
-Principles and Procedures of the Justice System</p>

<p>-Psychology of Communication
-Business and Professional Speech
-Introduction to Rhetorical Criticism
-Argumentation and Debate</p>

<p>Anyway, if I get a 4.0 (and I will, I've taken a lot of these courses as AP) and transfer to Berkeley as a Poli Sci major and do well there, too (3.67+) and finish college with a 3.83 and solid extra curricular, could I study law at Stanford? Do I have a chance? Would going to a CC first be a major blow when applying?</p>

<p>Lots of students in CA start in the community colleges for the very same reason you plan to. Don’t worry about this. </p>

<p>Yeah. Like, I got into UC Davis, UCSD, an UCSB. My parents just cant afford it. But Stanford wouldn’t be out of the question for sure, right? I’d like to study law there.</p>

<p><a href=“Recently Updated J.D. Profiles | Law School Numbers”>Recently Updated J.D. Profiles | Law School Numbers; describes Stanford Law admissions selectivity. Note: GPA for law school admission is recalculated by LSAC’s method which gives 4.33 for an A+.</p>

<p>You can apply to transfer to Stanford undergraduate as well as UCs. Stanford accepts few transfer students, but often accepts more than half of them from community colleges.</p>

<p>Although political science is the most popular pre-law major, it is nowhere near the majority, and no specific undergraduate major is required to do pre-law. <a href=“http://www.potsdam.edu/academics/AAS/Phil/upload/LSAT-Scores-of-Majors.pdf”>http://www.potsdam.edu/academics/AAS/Phil/upload/LSAT-Scores-of-Majors.pdf&lt;/a&gt; shows the distribution of majors of those taking the LSAT.</p>

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<p>It looks like you are taking duplicating US history courses (which already duplicate your AP credit in the subject). Why?</p>

<p>I have AP Macroeconomics, AP US Government, AP Comparative Government, and AP United States History. I got a 5 on US Govt and US History and a 4 on Comparative Government.</p>

<p>I feel as if APUSH hadn’t focused hard enough on the political history of the United States, so I’d like to reinforce some of it. History of the United States sounds like it’d cover things other than just the social and political history? Idk, I may be wrong.</p>

<p>Would Stanford be okay with me transferring w/o a math class, science class, english class, etc…?</p>

<p>Also, I got a 740 on the US subject test. Should I retake it IF I consider Stanford as a transfer option? Same with the SAT. Should I retake it? I could probably get a 2200+. I have a problem with actually studying for exams :p</p>

<p>US history courses tend to focus on social and political history. Check to see whether the courses in question have substantially duplicating material.</p>

<p>If US history is not specifically required for the major at the transfer target, then you may want to more productively consider other history or other courses rather than duplicating your AP material. The same goes for economics – since you already have AP macroeconomics, it would be better to take introductory microeconomics in college.</p>

<p>As it is, your course selections duplicating your AP credit in non-required courses do look like you are very transparently grade-grubbing for your law school admissions GPA, which may not necessarily be looked at favorably for transfer admission at holistic admissions schools.</p>

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<p>are you asking about transferring to S as an undergrad? how many transfers does S take? I think few.</p>

<p>I think your plan is risky because it depends on getting into a tippy-top school as a transfer.</p>

<p>How will your parents afford Cal if you transfer there?</p>

<p>You have soooo many AP credits, it seems like going to a CC is a total waste.</p>

<p>I think you should take a gap year and apply to schools where you would get big merit for your stats. dont take any classes…just work and save money.</p>

<p>how much can your family pay each year???</p>

<p>what is your M+CR from one sitting?</p>

<p>your other thread is confusing. It suggests that you are a junior…this thread says that you are a senior.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1642641-what-is-the-best-uc-i-may-get-into.html#latest”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1642641-what-is-the-best-uc-i-may-get-into.html#latest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>In your other thread, you say that your family earns $180k and YOU earn $30k per year. what do you do? how much do you have saved?</p>

<p>The market for lawyers is changing quickly, and not in a good way. I hope you’ll keep assessing your career plans over the next 5-6 years with an eye to how many lawyers are graduating and then finding jobs as lawyers. There’s no reason why you couldn’t attend Stanford Law after starting at a CC to save money. But a 3.83 GPA upon graduating from a UC, or even Stanford itself, will put you below the median GPA of students admitted to Stanford Law: <a href=“Welcome to SLS - Stanford Law School”>Welcome to SLS - Stanford Law School; The median is 3.87; the median LSAT, 171.</p>

<p>Law school admissions are very much based on college GPA and LSAT score - many would say that the LSAT score counts more heavily. Your major, undergrad institution, ECs, and other accomplishments may be considered somewhat, but will not trump the combined LSAT/GPA.</p>

<p>CC’s Law School forum is a helpful resource: <a href=“Law School - College Confidential Forums”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/law-school/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I’m a senior. I wrote the other thread as a Junior to see if I should have changed my path w/ a CC. Like, if people were to say I could have gotten into a UC or not. Yeah, family income=180,000, my income=30,000. I have four younger siblings, though. Three of which will be in college the same time I am. There’s no way my parents can afford 4 years at a UC for all of us, even with my help. Also, a lot of the money I make is sitting in stocks.</p>

<p>Yeah. I know a CC is a waste of time. With my APs, I could potentially graduate in 2.5 years instead of 4 (finished most of my general education w/ APs).</p>

<p>I’m saying 3.83 assuming I get a 4 at a CC and then get a 3.67 at Berkeley. I could probably do better than that at Berkeley (if I really put my mind to it). Maybe a 3.83 (which’d put me at a 3.91) but who knows.</p>

<p>So, with the math, English, science, etc… How would it look?</p>

<p>And should I replace US history second semester with European History? And Macroecon with microeconomics (I took the AP test for that, too. But I self studied). </p>

<p>And yeah, @mom2collegekids. Although I’d love to go there for law, I’d love it even more to go there for undergrad.</p>

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<p>that is why going to a cc is a waste of time. </p>

<p>You should consider a gap year and apply to schools that would give you enough merit so that you can go directly to a four year…and then graduate in 2-3 years if desired.</p>

<p>when you transfer, how much will your parents pay then???</p>

<p>Probably about half, so like 16 g’s a year. How could a gap year help me? I’d rather graduate from Berkeley after a CC than go to UCSB after a gap year and graduate in 2.5 years.</p>

<p>I know a girl who got a 4.0 GPA at UCLA History major and was still rejected by her graduate programs; so getting a High GPA is no guarantee. </p>

<p>Also the grade deflation and the ridiculous amount of work at mega publics really sucks so I would personally recommend going to an easier, smaller private school rather than a massive school like UCB; with your stats those kinds of schools should give you massive merit aid too. </p>

<p>You want to go to Berkeley and then Stanford for law school? Get out.</p>

<p>Rivalry shmilvary. Lol, @amaranthineD.</p>

<p>Btw, this is my grade breakdown…</p>

<p>9th: 2.8
10th: 4.0
11th: 3.5
12th: 4.83</p>

<p>10th-12th: 4.11</p>

<p>GPA dropped 11th because I transferred to a crudy public school and took a ton of APs. It’s not that they were difficult, it’s just that I became really well known (It’s a long story. I’m not good at balancing a social life with an academic life). </p>

<p>@bomerr, that’s a real bummer. What happened? Why?</p>

<p>Bump!</p>

<p>Bump!!!</p>