<p>somewhat in line with this post... my California Community College today cancelled it's entire winter intersession for WInter 2009 because of the current budget cuts and to prepare for expected additional cuts. This is a college that was in a fairly good position financially, too.</p>
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The studies you refer to show that the incoming FEDERAL tax revenues from illegal immigrants wages outweighs the additional STATE costs incurred. None of the studies I saw argued that state revenues from illegal immigrants were greater than state costs spent on them.</p>
<p>Since there are only limited programs in place to reimburse states from federal tax revenues to offset the difference in revenue streams, and since none of them covered the costs incurred in total, the states do suffer--which is why I was agreeing that illegal immigration would affect overall state revenues for education--although primarily at the high school and elementary school levels, not at the college level.
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<p>I'm not simply talking about the balancing of direct tax revenues from the illegal immigrants. I am also talking about the expansion of the general economy from illegal immigrant labor. For example, a lot of farms in California frankly wouldn't even be in business were it not for illegal labor, hence depriving the state of those farms' tax revenue. Many other farms might still be operational without illegal labor, but with reduced output, which would again decrease state tax revenue.</p>
<p>sakky, I totally agree with you. </p>
<p>None of the studies consider all aspects of the illegal immigration issue--which is part of what makes it such a "hot button" topic--both in and out of Congress and the California state legislature. And, even though you and I have discussed the economic aspects of this issue, neither of us have touched on the social or personal aspects of the issue. I doubt that either of us, put in the same position as an illegal immigrant, wouldn't also cross the border if we needed a job and the money that comes with it to support our families.</p>
<p>Unless the illegal immigration issue also attacks the motivational aspects (which includes at least considering the Mexican economic situation on their side of the border cities), then this stalemate situation is likely to consider for decades.</p>
<p>So, in regard to out of state students: no chance, and no point? I'm sure the UC's are well funded when compared on a national scale, but is it worth paying that price when classes will be so huge and TA's will be teaching the courses?</p>
<p>The audio and word document that was posted on the CSU website where the board members meet the chancellor at around 33min said "I'll tell you all a secret. The best and easiest way to get in the arch, engin, or ag department at Cal Poly is to go to the local community college up there". Couple of days later THEY EDITED THE AUDIO FILE and removed the statement by the chancellor of the CSU system. There is some hush hush stuff going on at that school. Also the chancellor said all 23 CSU's are factoring in geographic location to the school and Cal Poly said they dont do that. Pretty shady stuff.</p>
<p>And if all this doesn't make one's blood boil, this latest might: The California State University System has been warning of enrollment cuts and deep spending reductions as a result of Californias budget deficit. As a result, some faculty and other groups are frustrated by reports of large raises going to senior administrators. The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Chancellor Charles Reed has approved salary increases of up to 19 percent for nine vice presidents at California State campuses earlier this year, and approved 11 new appointments of vice presidents at nine campuses at salaries of as high as $225,000. Hefty</a> pay raises in troubled times on campus</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>My son is just about to submit his University of California application. Would his chances of acceptance depend on whether he applies as an undeclared or as a music major?</p>
<p>Any information, recommendations, urban legend appreciated.</p>
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And if all this doesn't make one's blood boil, this latest might: The California State University System has been warning of enrollment cuts and deep spending reductions as a result of California’s budget deficit. As a result, some faculty and other groups are frustrated by reports of large raises going to senior administrators. The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Chancellor Charles Reed has approved salary increases of up to 19 percent for nine vice presidents at California State campuses earlier this year, and approved 11 new appointments of vice presidents at nine campuses at salaries of as high as $225,000. Hefty pay raises in troubled times on campus
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<p>Well, frankly, that's small potatoes. We're just talking about 20 positions here. Granted, they may be 20 overpaid positions, but still, it's only 20 positions. Relative to the overall size of the CSU system, with over 400k students, that's really just a rounding error. Honestly, if these 20 positions were not overpaid, how many additional students could that support? A few hundred more? That's not much. </p>
<p>I personally think a far far more serious problem is the tenure process itself. Tenured professors are unfireable (that is, unless they do something egregious like get caught stealing money from the school). In other words, they've locked in an income stream for life, regardless of not only how the financial status of the university may change but also the quality of your work. While you still obviously have to show up to work, you can do your work poorly and still have a guaranteed job for life. So if you simply want to publish poor quality articles (or not even publish at all), teach your courses poorly, contribute poor quality administrative work, and otherwise shirk your responsibilities, they can't fire you because you're tenured. Few other jobs exist where you can keep it regardless of the quality of your work. </p>
<p>Now, to be fair, many (probably most) tenured profs continue to work hard. They continue to research. They continue to publish. They execute their administrative assignments diligently. But the point is, they don't have to. If they don't want to do that, they just don't. That's why a lot of universities have a lot of dead wood in them: a major financial drain on their coffers.</p>