<p>I was admitted to Cornell ILR class of 2011, and I reallyyyyy want to go to Cornell, but I'm having doubts as to whether I applied to the right school or not.</p>
<p>I'm interested in business and/or law. I'm not too into math/science-y type subjects (ie: finance/real estate/accounting). I'm more interested in the people-side of business - corporate lawyer, marketing, etc.</p>
<p>I also visited cornell last week, and from what the ILRies had to say, you can focus on business while being in ILR. But I also recently spoke with a Hotelie and he/she did not have many good things to say about ILR.
ie:
- its dubbed "I Love Reading School" (read ~3 hours every day)
- more theory and not practice</p>
<p>I want to know if I can study both business and law, and not only things taht have to do with labor relations.</p>
<p>I am currently a freshman (from Texas) in the ILR school...I am just like you and want to do business/law and not labor (seeing as Texas is a right to work state)...</p>
<p>I am also doing a concentration (which is like a minor and its offered to every undergrad regardless of major/school) in International Relations. There is a concentration called "Law and Society" which seems right for you...as an ILR we have plenty of electives...people take courses in AEM and PAM...</p>
<p>with any major you will have to take the required courses of that major...but you have plenty of electives...if you email me i can send you a breakdown of the ILR requirements...i dont check this often so that's why i provided my email...</p>
<p>hotelies like to diss every other major (only b/c they are seen as the easiest school) hotel school is very hands on type of stuff...and you'll succeed there by being pretty and active (i think admissions requires a picture)...</p>
<p>ILR is much more professional...while hotel is more of a sell the product type of school...</p>
<p>a minor/concentration is a formal study and has its own requirements...see the list of concentrations here: </p>
<p>if you want more information on a particular concentration just google something like "cornell law and society concentration" and you should be able to get something up</p>
<p>you can take courses in business and/or law but your major will be ILR and you will have to meet the requirements, this being said...only about 40 of the 120 required credits are ILR specific...</p>
<p>is that a dual-degree program offered within Cornell? What school does the MBA come out of? I was just accepted to ILR as well, but I'm currently a student at NYU majoring in Economics, Mathematics and minoring in Pre-Business so I'm afraid I might be moving too far from business, which is what I want to do. I'm interning at JPMorgan this summer, so I'm also reluctant to leave NYC for the opportunities. Everyone is telling me passing up admission to an Ivy would be dumb, but is ILR really a great fit for me and my goals of business given the momentum I have going at NYU?</p>
<p>(Not to mention all the majors seems extremely tangential for anyone trying to do Finance. I only applied cause my friend made ILR sound like God's gift to anyone interested in business and/or law.)</p>
<p>If you're a transfer, I wouldn't bother. You're going to have to take a lot of required classes that you probably don't want to take, and that are really nothing related to a regular business school.</p>
<p>"I also visited cornell last week, and from what the ILRies had to say, you can focus on business while being in ILR. But I also recently spoke with a Hotelie and he/she did not have many good things to say about ILR."</p>
<p>um, not trying to be mean and all, but i don't think you should be listening to a hotelie about their opinions on the schools at cornell (i mean, they are the most insulted school on campus, and i like the hotel school!)</p>
<p>it really is a bunch of foolishness, but it basically goes like this:</p>
<p>the hotel school is the easiest, least challenging, least meaningful college/school at cornell. they teach courses on light bulbs, table setting, wine tasting, but u hardly see anything meaningful, blah blah blah, blah blah blah.</p>
<p>the hotel school has one of the lowest starting salary for its graduates...and the list goes on and on.</p>
<p>Now, I happen to like the Statler School of Hotel Administration and, thus, disregard this as a ludicrous. however, the point i was trying to make is that, with all the negative notions (no matter the validity) surrounding the hotel school, i find it laughable that a hotelie would criticize the ilr school, one of the more challenging schools at cornell university.</p>
<p>Absolutely not!!! In fact, with all that free time on their hands (lol), Hotelies are the social scene jk.</p>
<p>No, but really, the only people who really seemed to be isolated from the social scene were engineers and architecture students, due to their really, really rigorous coursework. But, then again, there are plenty engineers and people from architecture/art/planning that are pretty involved socially.</p>
<p>Basically, what it comes down to is this:</p>
<p>At Cornell, you have you have your really nerdy people (which i'm not saying is a bad thing) who for the most part keep to themselves studying and all that crap. Then you have the kids with the work hard/ play hard mentality.
There's a good mix of them in each of the colleges, and nerds in all of the colleges (altho maybe a little bit more in engineering lol)</p>
<p>If you're interested in the human side of business, ILR is really one of the best places in the country to be. Its combination of organizational behavior, human resources, labor economics, and labor law imparts a unique competency in labor issues that sets its graduates apart from run-of-the-mill business majors. There are also plenty of electives, allowing you to delve further into ILR, or complement the degree with traditional business classes. </p>
<p>There is a running joke that ILR stands for "I Love Reading," but it tends to be in a joking way. The department of Collective Bargaining is particularly notorious for assigning heavy reading, though the main skill you get is learning to skim, and synthesize a lot of information quickly. </p>
<p>As for theory vs practice, from the standpoint of a Hotelie, ILR may indeed look more "theoretical," but the Hotel School is as pre-professional as programs come. From the standpoint of a traditional econ or even business program, I think ILR's curriculum looks very practical. You can also tinker with the theory vs practice in electives. My own opinion (which is difficult to substantiate in a single post) is that the ILR curriculum as a whole is markedly practical, rather than theoretical.</p>